From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5299: Default mailer (was: custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:13:03 -0800 Message-ID: <5D630E99DED141549CC5B34E7BA63C41@us.oracle.com> References: <64d3zvx1zi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83fx4rn5y9.fsf@gnu.org><6C9499604D654518BE69C7DC805E18C6@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267046886 29446 80.91.229.12 (24 Feb 2010 21:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5299@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 24 22:28:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NkOm0-0007OJ-9M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:14:30 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o1OJFKqu020995; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:14:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 48319131267045984; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:13:04 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:13:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acq1gp+CFonCtA72QNyz8/XWP8N12gAEzQjw X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4B8596B5.00BF:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:15:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:35296 Archived-At: > I think we need to revisit the setting for the default mailer: I think > neither the mailclient-send-it nor any other setting is a > good default. > I think we should instead use as default a special function > that prompts > the user whether he wants to use his external MUA to send email > (i.e. use mailclient-send-it), or to use /usr/sbin/sendmail, or to use > smtpmail in which case it'll ask the user to configure his > SMTP server. > > And this should be used on *all* systems rather than only under w32 > and/or macosx, since sadly /usr/sbin/sendmail is too often > unusable even > under GNU/Linux (my /usr/sbin/sendmail is usable, but I must > admit that > it took me a significant amount of work on my laptop, so I > can't expect > most people to go through that trouble). I would hope that if a user is interrupted by such questions this happens only the first time, not each time s?he sends a mail. IOW, questions are OK as a means to help a user configure things, but once defaults are configured according to the user's preference, then there shouldn't be any more prompting. If there is a need to let users override their default settings, then that could perhap be done either via a different command or using C-u.