From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Icicles Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:45:39 -0800 Message-ID: <5D20BB8E96CF43F2BE802AC94C506842@us.oracle.com> References: <87pqs9cive.fsf@towardsfreedom.com><87aajbxcz0.fsf@towardsfreedom.com><438E16200A1B4A5F92832FC0CCBDDC39@us.oracle.com> <87wrma8uaj.fsf@towardsfreedom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294847299 11536 80.91.229.12 (12 Jan 2011 15:48:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:48:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "'prad'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 16:48:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pd2vj-0008P1-NF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:48:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54427 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pd2vj-0008Dz-7d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:48:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45806 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pd2ut-0008CC-Bv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:47:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pd2ur-0004wH-Rk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:47:18 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:40131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pd2ur-0004w3-Hp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:47:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p0CFlDuq014038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:47:14 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p0CFkXR8006378; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:46:33 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt017.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 953683431294847141; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:45:41 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.223.199) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:45:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87wrma8uaj.fsf@towardsfreedom.com> Thread-Index: AcuyKN5ok+WWqCKPRKSWXP4VwGNaTAARHI5Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78413 Archived-At: > while trying to learn gnus, i wanted to learn how to use > icicles better and that led me somehow to org. In such a situation, it might be a good idea to use Icicles only as an aid to learning gnus and org, for now. So you might want to turn off the following for the time being, while you learn gnus and org: (setq icicle-top-level-key-bindings nil icicle-redefine-standard-commands-flag nil) More variables means more confusion. Tiny bites swallowed finishes the slice of bread first (learned that in an elementary-school contest - lost). > imho, open source is the next best thing to sliced bread Free and open software is much better than sliced bread - or at least better than some sliced bread. ;-)