Re: eldoc vs minibuffer-auto-raise

[martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>]

 >> No.  I suppose you have set 'w32-grab-focus-on-raise' to nil so you
 >> won't see this behavior.
 >
 > Yes, it's nil.  (Not that I even remembered what
 > that variable is or does, or when I set it to nil.)
 >
 > However, I see the same behavior even if I set the
 > var to `t'.

Eli noted the same.  Strange.

 > In my case, no doubt due to something
 > else in my setup, the focus stays where I left it,
 > in the *scratch* frame.  Eldoc puts its msgs in the
 > minibuffer frame (in the echo area, presumably), and
 > focus stays put, in *scratch*.

This sounds a bit like focus redirection.  I'm not so familiar with
that.

 > However2: With the variable = t things are really
 > annoying outside of Emacs!
 >
 > E.g., while typing this mail in Outlook (not Emacs),
 > Eldoc (?) keeps periodically sending the window-mgr
 > focus to the Emacs *scratch* frame (not to the
 > minibuffer frame - again, no doubt due to my setup),
 > so text I try to type into Outlook ends up in
 > *scratch*.  That's creepy weird.

This must be related to your setup, some timer maybe.

 > I'm not familiar with that variable, and I don't
 > really make much, if any, real use of Eldoc, but
 > if other users also find Eldoc periodically stealing
 > focus from other window-mgr windows and redirecting
 > it to some Emacs frame I'd think that would be quite
 > annoying.  (Has anyone reported that?)
 >
 > Good thing I have it set to nil, I guess.

Maybe.  I cannot see any of the behavior you describe here.

martin