From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33921: 27.0.50; Default height is inconsistently - and apparently also incorrectly - documented Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 15:57:47 +0100 Message-ID: <5C28DCEB.909@gmx.at> References: <877efrxrpe.fsf@metalevel.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546181783 3487 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2018 14:56:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:56:23 +0000 (UTC) To: Markus Triska , 33921@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 15:56:19 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdcVn-0000n5-5W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 30 Dec 2018 15:57:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877efrxrpe.fsf@metalevel.at> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NkeqSuE34sNLlCMWyZkSINtXroz8oP5C2OqV+GChbngWU6WR0tx /GgMGUFQTnwd2TsjJ7AWWuXs5iMe0HmVe6ONuJHGjVfq6PAXqE6MAlDm/NPuDrmAH0goaHm ZWd5V+9ZMOeExjhwSf+9Km6HHgZVK4MbRjDC4qflk5MdyRth8A8LuZ4loLWm0LLxq28C+Ol KFjfztk617E9X9ELtIEOA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:uYgvsLz2Obs=:Zq82QMivoM+aiV1qllHsyi pLGIra4HiQ/zdMfvS/uFOBjUV1iDzsFCqIP9K+aDutQ+bCpq4ft/hQo7mWFIPPH0s+Sz+3eGF yc7T+AdmnAKlDkMX0sv8t+h0vNjAsnEOfV/cNxuF2DXnkd52wsl6oCO5PJ9kIb0lLhx+z78MQ XDEAVuMV/nyfngRTy4nLsvbFf2jS+P7V28RQ02CLEAeI7HS0nt2NewCLJteA6BOHEJnJy888d HN3z2lLp7zu5iuvroFO7litTu+XLRv2g3cza/w2/7/0HJu000pMMwAgRRqE5TpviADUhbQ8Ss YHUVdxHqgvyDvlutBRNM20LSw9t73Ronx17nzS7Evwnd7Z/JoWty3xwephz7iY7ZRKvODxubz CwNLR6Vkx6T/r6G7hELRIj9xzTz8O61lqU6kwi/qNsmQWUToLavJiAdu5jMkJP3tFgd2PnLQm DkKkixTZSxyXpDCTWz1o0SqTodbgAHU7SQiz4nQuVNNwLYGbQKZdYw4/+kqTrDaKk2LuBygdb t/09/OWVhYv9xuQP+kbn4OwSrE71TD2Ir+Mlup8Ci5O02LTLtl5wb5WoL2nCDjHIdbUhUjGWI 9wsvwdbpkgRIh7m8br1dJTCgpl+F5ZYbXcqExqwcfRjwIPidKxl0MJaHnDcfYeDmd3tin0BwS VFGMEelLe5txPKZY7IBI8G8stbIrn8Kcn9wo78WfZltNMIm2ZuSn+KB5H/r8B2iz6ajdnqOMY KMS7SfzroC1+cZsbbn8o5roxFSYXfOweHL3LTszoYdDGalIn3kV6dd96HRzJWHtYv91O2f6a X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:154022 Archived-At: > In the Emacs man page, we find for the "-g" (--geometry) option: > > The width and height are specified in characters; the default is > 80 by 24. This must be a very old entry. > In the Emacs info page ("C.8 Options for Window Size and Position"), we > find a different default height: > > The default frame width is 80 characters and the default height is > 40 lines. The default height was changed from 40 to 35 by Chong and from 35 to 36 by Eli. I now updated the value given by the manual of the release branch. > However, when I start Emacs via "$ emacs -Q", I actually get a height > that is neither 24 nor 40, no matter how I count it: On a recent Debian > install with X toolkit, I get an initial window that comprises exactly > 28 lines, 28 lines is strange indeed. > and if I include the mode line and echo area, then the frame > height is 30, excluding the tool bar, menu bar and title bar. Evaluating (frame-height) with emacs -Q should yield 36. What does it give for you? And what is your value of (window-total-height) for the initial window? It's 35 here. martin