From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scratch/accurate-warning-pos: Solid progress: the branch now bootstraps. Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 08:35:54 +0100 Message-ID: <5C0239DA.4030907@gmx.at> References: <20181127211539.GB4705@ACM> <8c38f335-b25d-9ef6-110c-6efc4fda9d67@cs.ucla.edu> <20181127215347.GC4705@ACM> <23334086-c0a1-7b34-4234-343719618bd1@cs.ucla.edu> <20181128120443.GA4036@ACM> <20181129220552.GI12576@ACM> <9dde4ed7-8401-6022-a668-258d48bb7726@cs.ucla.edu> <20181130185503.GA16256@ACM> <20181130220218.GB16256@ACM> <138d56b7-53df-1ea5-377c-8502245f1b6b@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543649673 24030 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2018 07:34:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 07:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Eli Zaretskii , cpitclaudel@gmail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert , Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 01 08:34:29 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gSznI-00069J-UQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 08:34:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSzpP-0006YG-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 02:36:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSzpK-0006YB-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 02:36:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSzpJ-0006cz-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 02:36:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:44639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gSzpG-0006cD-Bs; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 02:36:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.162.73.226]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0McmS9-1gkwAx1ldR-00I0CJ; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 08:35:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <138d56b7-53df-1ea5-377c-8502245f1b6b@cs.ucla.edu> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9jm5uOj8Q0nYGc9aYNYfJASJRmlprc4ccm5AEBRae4o5C3hqwkx 5pzeMfxWo32dg1NJlg77x4JVfHeeSBB1PSC8DGHUVlpd9yJsEOCVxagkBPYQOqxzPiiO4Hc UpwBUVBtDvHnRmT5sPiONQ6RyqXoT7qhauKdFVe+xLrI1VD3PPMDgR6FXtzX0LGAeuxgKzz quC+6HbprS1OMmvi5ciEQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:H9oMshbyrhw=:K2nllIuz5aw1kaoVg4dCpR ZDrZVVHJQjqp1giA+LK9ULA/AD4VD+nxXIJEsGWc623SJ/CREWL76UDtFflHIMRixY3FgRZpO 0f4tVU++to8gBVLS6IMiHS4C0eVw7Tj0x2PNj/GMRXTP8JC/iZ5OXueqijMMM4LijUuwdzXj2 UtLfQOOMb3pCNHsDu9NPLua35gmb6wwLL4j1r3UmDkbb5/wj8BVKA7Xqg1gW7jh5N0TNdZ4zH LhdFVh3Mlkg82fvEzs02pComnS/TFOJQs9azvjez+rQMuGm8suiEyCSHHxSpckzkhf1op4UXC +USFtE5MTrQaSYoWqmJ8Xl7/14kPARpmabkB0kmf79G7KxULYLWrPTwNZ/XLt6illjg5FVwDs ILvRR1q3SIy+qxedwfadD1wK7TbtPSJ/pTojxd5mVpjjUsBAcy3uK4UX8AL3G1XGa5SxRgEtd lDiS6fpMfcyl6dTnyrfBntmH5MvMfU3Rv3O0pWmF2QHQHs2DAYd7bLojn6xLpMO59b6hyFLl3 5LKBCjKltVh9w0fMTv/7gXSLFHN6X9Hm6UoHfzIzqg+XaZTbaF7I+grUtnf1oxmsjL4Su/7bl /ybGOfVykQf+Gj+xoDUWZI0KqbSJ13Ky9n0JzakHGpLLOqepN+Aietl1jXN61FbdRZ1amlnwZ FE6mI63QushW9Y4RIEmFeOiQQqvC6J4ALiHygWrYqi9KTNyyVhorlbnl3wuRv3U2aZcKzdfPT d0oyCnb8Jzs/De62q/BXS9muS4ncfDQSCpPeeXREdGWlre3aJCeD5SfFtmd1cGp9sGzH1nlx X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231547 Archived-At: > All in all the status quo is preferable to > scratch/accurate-warning-pos. Although I don't expect you to agree > with me on this, I don't think I'm alone in having concerns about > the significant performance issues here. There are around 50 issues in current Emacs that annoy me at least as much as wrong positions reported by the byte compiler. If, on the average, solving any such issue took away just 2% of the performance of my Emacs, I'd experience an overall slowdown of 100% when solving all of them. So please note that Paul is not alone with his concerns. martin