From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11732: Follow-up to bug#11732 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 12:21:35 +0200 Message-ID: <5B40942F.2030105@gmx.at> References: <87obohkxga.fsf@XAVIER-PC.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83y3f0p6n7.fsf@gnu.org> <5B35F120.9040807@gmx.at> <83fu16nepn.fsf@gnu.org> <5B373A21.9050407@gmx.at> <83d0w8mrvu.fsf@gnu.org> <5B377CB8.1030602@gmx.at> <837emgmmu2.fsf@gnu.org> <5B389847.6000204@gmx.at> <83sh53kp1j.fsf@gnu.org> <5B3B3407.3020300@gmx.at> <83d0w4jgq5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wou732w4.fsf@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <838t6njrg6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530958811 4453 195.159.176.226 (7 Jul 2018 10:20:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11732@debbugs.gnu.org, mhatta@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii , Tak Kunihiro Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 12:20:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbkJy-0000xW-BD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 07 Jul 2018 12:21:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <838t6njrg6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uJToid4B1hhdItWTePAWL3h9jnrfwU8mnul1lYAJZNDV9nuBgqJ DDCZ8ZIAurBdfK9x9jnTK1oEJii7Ttqy91EH1aujubPRbZnD+nl/nmHsrS/YKIi6V5RE3yY LC4h7XbRzsGMTDA7qEpk9KZFgjiX9kMZ8ArzkaOyGB/zvea7qITiCXNbWYYVlu81p+urwG3 ZVY6OfxzF1O7WU93rDh8g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pDJ1R0dJ79c=:PAFv/3tGFoB0JiefOaiZ8W IBtdtq7IzMyqx6A9UOKdDcqFdoP/XKVyUswzv+63Tsy+eLopr1gOu6AXkN0xWrt84DfM1QQLt Ed9yy9uWJKbdwrRr4qxfavYguyZ6NFbE+b0oTByjCx4VktidpyhFPOIl2knIounuEcL7OaUR7 WU+a7mlANCAsYiLEVvuCJadw2JtJWznxIH1BRmcRYmvSL+IHaY+GJIy1ukhl5vFqOIp7TqBOU qvqnVUXYQGycF0rh7/dxZ9wSfs9XSmJzG/MSetV874S3R1DVhW4RmlyreXJJxGforImisNhdY 7lEHr3hYi9niczyUicwWMeaEk6Sw/slZexfuonSxF+D2AWwP3gegsbPaokqYvDuLzeH7Q13xx 8JrrGieGX30UEGFt5mf6rSz6eDy9tryAjANGnxdjDy7JBlYUkk4ocvdOmgoudFfz9AtLm6r16 hAoXANHCdvBY4Xf5CWJHChIvGRv+mOXBuoetHbAR09+6q7CsR3555/mQuwwCdVIwbCJgONzbr DbLo1relrK1c5RNHCXw4tOcAEV4vDUMC4PJ/xOcgx6/bGxz08zCWMMj/bh21N920NBItFvT5F GDX1BbzRrEilgdHiVJDAXraAu9u5zAnGVJKxFLl7hvuq4W0SsBOWKkzg+IOCpKVXvtG49Lyps dZqIfqjW2HhcJPe5P1sEoc8XxHBZ3yM187uVSfbS4ZCHdU5tV8ptQDXGwvCVJYtn0Y/6ZDWFJ 1b/AZ06K25Le+JcA8mubuoB3vydnob+qUmxELfuqogQqE6LhPvGi1HF9kXksZcdjtnlKUMbf X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148293 Archived-At: > Moreover, I sometimes see the same problem in my "normal" Emacs > session running 26.1 sources where this change was not done (but in > "emacs -Q" I cannot trigger the problem unless I make the change). On XP or 7? > So I think it's not the proposed change that does it, it's something > we don't do entirely correctly that interacts badly with > focus-follows-mouse configuration. Which is why I said that unless > you have ideas how to fix this, we should simply install the proposed > change, and deal with the dialog problems separately, perhaps using > the changes I tried and you fixed. These changes are not yet fixed. At least here the selected frame remains topmost even after the dialog finished which is even worse than the disease it tried to cure. I have to remove the frame from that group, probably in w32_dialog_in_progress. >> The proposed change is very beneficial for me. Then I can ask people >> using MS Windows to type in Japanese character using Emacs in a Texinfo >> document. Could you install it!? > > I'm waiting for Martin to tell whether he has some ideas about the > negative effects this has on popup dialogs. We will install the > change after that, with or without the remedies for those problems. Please install without any remedies. If I find a way to fix this I'll get back to you. martin