From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:13:25 +0000 Message-ID: <5B24B171-FABB-40C4-90C8-248240E4EF8B@gmail.com> References: <4373BDF2.90106@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131923662 21269 80.91.229.2 (13 Nov 2005 23:14:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 14 00:14:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbR2b-0003HC-3t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:13:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbR2a-000293-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:13:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbR2O-00028t-Dt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:13:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EbR2N-00028X-MW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:13:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbR2N-00028P-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.162.200] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EbR2N-0005V7-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so1029640nzf for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:13:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TkURWjaGPgmgz+97OCG3txJlej8PDtb9DEX/WuwLVGUcG3tTDPIUuJw7z70o0759tHoOsi97BB6HCTklWxfy8BEM47HCdzK27ZCs5xoiHb7F7WtkT+GeRPILJAHzcux9Qbh9rc3uNkKi8Wy8zOt4cbJIHxe5RH+m6dsj/aPIoek= Original-Received: by 10.64.131.4 with SMTP id e4mr2067270qbd; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:13:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.0.0.34? ( [82.13.31.46]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm1774544qba.2005.11.13.15.13.25; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:13:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45913 Archived-At: On 13 Nov 2005, at 22:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> They all go back to one program, Emacs, which popularized this >> concept in 1975. > > Perhaps that's how it happened historically, but the important thing > is that by now this term is also known to people who don't use Emacs. It's the concept that counts, and none of the merit is taken away from Emacs if the term denotating the concept changes. But if you look up a term in a corpus such as Google's, you will want to have a look at the distribution of its alternate, near-synonymous variants. "key bindings" --> 277,000 "key shortcuts" --> 111,000 "keyboard commands" --> 311,000 "key commands" --> 208,000 "keyboard shortcuts" --> 2,630,000 hits