From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alastair Houghton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [OT] Netiquette Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:28:22 +0100 Message-ID: <5B0419EA-6296-43A5-92E8-2C98243780B0@alastairs-place.net> References: <2E2BAEFF-FEAD-4616-87CD-3B77D2734256@alastairs-place.net> <19321565-3F93-4299-996F-8A2081C462AF@alastairs-place.net> <85bqsyfrhb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <853beaf0c4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <6C1D0482-9501-47E5-A79E-C40EF7B349A8@alastairs-place.net> <7BBA4171-6111-42FF-9293-0EF2D8E2E436@alastairs-place.net> <39FA2311-142B-41C9-BCC3-AF09D6B819FC@alastairs-place.net> <85wtbkc5ac.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <9F63F016-EB0C-4BD8-B359-D3E646800AF1@alastairs-place.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1150302808 3926 80.91.229.2 (14 Jun 2006 16:33:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 14 18:33:23 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqYIM-0006DZ-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:32:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqYIL-0002Mj-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FqYEb-0007jq-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FqYEZ-0007iG-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:28:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FqYEZ-0007hz-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.159.14.132] (helo=pih-relay05.plus.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FqYNU-0002lV-GL; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.162.110.205] (helo=[10.0.1.5]) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1FqYED-0001F9-Cc; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:28:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: sds@podval.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55898 Archived-At: On 14 Jun 2006, at 16:43, Sam Steingold wrote: > I see nothing wrong in telling someone > that the answer to his question is covered in the manual, except > that I > prefer to see a URL next to the note to RTFM. No, there's nothing wrong with telling someone that the answer to a question is covered in the manual. But I didn't ask a question, and that isn't how David worded his reply. I also don't see anything wrong with apologising if you offend someone, but apparently the correct approach is to attack them for taking offence instead, particularly if at the time they're trying to help out with some FOSS package you're working on. >> At this point I'm thoroughly fed-up, so: >> >> 1. I won't be contributing to Emacs in future. Instead, I'll either >> keep my changes to myself or I'll go back to XEmacs. >> >> 2. If I see *any* further email on this topic, I will withdraw my >> current patch and won't be signing any copyright assignment >> forms. E- >> mail about the patch itself is, of course, fine. > > I doubt that these kinds of threats will win you any friends here or > elsewhere. I wasn't after "winning friends", I was after putting an end once and for all to this pointless e-mail conversation. But apparently *you* consider it more important to continue it than you do that someone makes a useful contribution to Emacs. Maybe you thought I was bluffing, but I'm afraid I'm not, so---thanks to you---I'm withdrawing my patch and I won't be signing any copyright forms sent by the FSF. Alastair. -- http://www.alastairs-place.net