From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30182: Update Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 11:01:22 +0100 Message-ID: <5A76D9F2.20805@gmx.at> References: <87k1wdqc4q.fsf@gmail.com> <87efmj27d5.fsf@gmail.com> <83vafvqjbf.fsf@gnu.org> <87inbvxdz8.fsf@gmail.com> <5A65AB97.1030401@gmx.at> <87po62kk10.fsf@gmail.com> <831sih23rh.fsf@gnu.org> <5A663490.3050409@gmx.at> <87r2qh5lya.fsf@gmail.com> <5A6C37A7.2020309@gmx.at> <87r2qag5wp.fsf@gmail.com> <5A6D8947.5010207@gmx.at> <87d11t9ria.fsf@gmail.com> <5A6EF1A2.30904@gmx.at> <83lgggirzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5A702D36.6040302@gmx.at> <83po5rh3pu.fsf@gnu.org> <5A718CFA.2080408@gmx.at> <878tcdtpbk.fsf@gmail.com> <5A72DD44.3060104@gmx.at> <83lggceh9m.fsf@gnu.org> <87372jh41f.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <5A757B23.60607@gmx.at> <83d11mbc1v.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517738437 26160 195.159.176.226 (4 Feb 2018 10:00:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 10:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, m.sujith@gmail.com, 30182@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 04 11:00:33 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eiH5o-0005G7-JZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 04 Feb 2018 11:01:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83d11mbc1v.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FDL0mkwO0IYKnDswrw2OME6KNPZifD78omBH/7fHN+ms9xfgvGN mjLnf2VZGQWdNW/AtJOuBiZ8tf/i4w6vJJRwJbI+ZoyB/4hrUagi72nUeqcSUEQxiaHV71T J19DbvkO0qCf34l+NZskHnvsUcYxPmB2X6I/a7ewOdsamNFzzsEYLm8fimKDLzpcRG6i3/Z XMHzyi6Wk+alx7t2t9i8A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5n9On6ShcG8=:k4iJfP84Uf742y5hCwyTds Gk9Z9H+3p78bydYdKLqE5Wp8iwjBFBCXtPvyOaDvkBqR0+UIfyPMfyoqe9znzqYkgMV5FI737 kQ+KHWAFab35uIOMbxI7jCWIjXMJpTWtr+gAnR40gQqCjajZje7RNXLEGsZpqwtV4BFSEp+Sp RiTf6wma3WXaML2vuOaoADW3eDUqn0LvRMfeJyCgsZ218IMJPnbMVrdk9zY0XS2DSCrDPLs+w tEIzBCthtNL5dpe5MJXNs619gSIduBYBiig2QUo3pwxcbzS374fdv3ivdt4qXbNy2drL9cT3G Qq+17dWmU0v1cV2u4mae/xsv65+ET11IKcE9vdUDrXdhyWA1B+TWTPiypyhvWy81LHIoE64iO rNdfI2WurjVtLEbztzVOvAY+SWgJpo39V2mMrZFF+Rc0FPcCyBiDwt+SArCwZGip20FwYSLa0 WzH2JnMgBfONnLmtUfF2l0gWkzEz12lvEfqBaZ5eggjJ3GYaZ2WCsYY62DA1WSDHOyK3Iqu5V KKTcGm1vytHXRB9jNGX+dVjwO9UXjixZBe8cDDVLZsNMor+cpppvb91OISRZjhFj+mlhW5AQZ rLQAo2YWLomuwX19tGzsnMi5lyFWrWtSYei/CDn4udVsnsugxwvMHc9n1JvPSr+z1qjTh6rLi rLqauiJwh6QcDpDVEzMPtwlMjgJQQlhp9moK9rvhErPvaL2M114989X/K3125lZGDCCIMPh5c zKTFXbWIpAhXbDuCo2WNZpCDuWKl+TaNoCSY+8qKZmxd+I3Em8u79Aq+yRlKakX75nSfcisu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:142879 Archived-At: >> In either case, an average Lisp programmer will be completely lost >> when trying to understand process_pending_signals and gobble_input and >> their possible implications. But maybe it is undocumentable. > > Why would a Lisp programmer need to understand that? It's a C-level > problem, and should be fixed on the C level. I meant Lisp programmers occasionally delving into C code to understand what's going on with their code. They probably should know about quitting and how to inhibit it but will have no idea how input is blocked and what consequences that has for them. martin