From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Fix some tooltip related problems
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:47:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A587620.8040201@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec21a1ef-9fd4-460d-8722-138a3fe8f3e5@default>
>> The option `x-gtk-use-system-tooltips' decides whether to use system
>> or Emacs tooltips. This is a user option and should never be set by
>> Lisp code.
>
> Then that doesn't satisfy what I requested:
>
> "being able to choose for any given context which to use"
> ---------------------
> "Can we let Lisp code (and so users too) decide, here or
> there, which kind of tooltip to use (heavyweight "Emacs"
> or lightweight "system")?"
Right. Such decisions must be left to the user.
> And users on gtk-build systems can choose. Choice should
> also be available to Lisp functions, as use cases differ.
> It's of course possible to let a user option allow for
> Lisp control or override/prevent it, au choix.
>
> Today, does changing the value of that user option change
> the behavior dynamically? E.g., if you did change the
> value using a given Lisp function would the behavior change?
>
> If so then some specific contexts could, by default, use
> "Emacs" tooltips, while other contexts did not.
I'd rather advise to set `x-gtk-use-system-tooltips' once in the init
file and never change it during the session.
> For example, tooltip-dimming for mode-line mouseover
> could be done for non-Windows also, without imposing "Emacs"
> tooltips everywhere. And users could prevent that dimming
> using option `x-gtk-use-system-tooltips'.
>
> Since that's apparently possible for more than just Windows,
> including for at least some GNU/Linux builds, that's what
> we should do by default. I didn't propose it earlier
> because I thought you were saying that it is only Windows
> that supports faces in tooltips, and I know that we don't
> tailor default Emacs behavior for Windows only.
Please look into the implementation details of tooltips before
suggesting such things.
martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-12 8:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-08 9:53 Fix some tooltip related problems martin rudalics
2018-01-08 14:41 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-08 18:19 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-08 18:50 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-09 15:08 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-10 10:20 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-10 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-10 19:17 ` Alan Third
2018-01-10 21:02 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-10 23:04 ` Alan Third
2018-01-10 23:26 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-11 3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-11 7:03 ` Yuri Khan
2018-01-11 14:32 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-11 10:56 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-11 14:42 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-11 17:06 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-11 17:19 ` Robert Pluim
2018-01-11 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-11 18:20 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-11 23:33 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2018-01-12 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-12 8:40 ` Robert Pluim
2018-01-12 9:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-12 13:57 ` Robert Pluim
2018-01-12 14:15 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-01-11 19:54 ` Richard Stallman
2018-01-11 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-12 8:48 ` Robert Pluim
2018-01-11 18:09 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-11 18:54 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-11 19:50 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-12 8:47 ` martin rudalics [this message]
2018-01-12 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2018-01-08 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-08 19:06 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-08 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2018-01-19 18:54 ` martin rudalics
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