From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix some tooltip related problems Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:20:15 +0100 Message-ID: <5A57AADF.6070608@gmx.at> References: <5A533FA4.4030507@gmx.at> <9384bae5-cbb9-4b4d-ac5c-1d01f01c8117@default> <5A53B633.5020706@gmx.at> <41d40db5-15d8-4b2c-a058-fb6dabc8bfd3@default> <5A548E7E.2040601@gmx.at> <5A55E8ED.1010602@gmx.at> <475d480b-3885-4779-ae46-09cf7fbbcee7@default> <5A5742E7.3070303@gmx.at> <5A5799A5.1070305@gmx.at> <878td4fh4r.fsf@gmail.com> <83a7xk46pp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515694734 14464 195.159.176.226 (11 Jan 2018 18:18:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 11 19:18:50 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZhR3-0002qz-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:18:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZhT2-0000GK-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:20:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45379) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZhSq-0000Ee-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:20:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZhSm-0002i7-10 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:20:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:53280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZhSl-0002gq-Kq; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:20:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.73.239]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LeRKD-1fDxp61hPB-00qEwr; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:20:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83a7xk46pp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iTbHczyrZk0TQj9RvlpREFAjm/jQRhoM2n05K3F5Qbm2jgahfC9 3IMUw1yLLiH0GSpER9ib1mwUZBC9E+Alllrkb3NAtr9uw/opVBcwAdCBVGM3E4Pej1Jh9JG uwETLcZnyBS5Qc3yXn3XQglrK9+c5fa6VjPSiB7cvDw4k9kxWk2F7PU7Y+Ciu4h0A8H+RFX 0ZgymQm4RRUrrCxw7Fjkw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:IlGAsnkYq0I=:COG7ICLpGiw6Guzt4steA0 guZseXILiqPEdhh0YhuAPgSXG3/eqG5Zu5CLg4JNOBL3xNXamW13zqOT9HW4LhRIXKaXRr9HB SPNeySFVrZRtGRZUNxPJMDNtJ8QM0cbhJnuAR3laCHGA7FYn5SguFokoWy8zxblYzoL9lFrkG 2pkJeKxqMlYiRB0zQXVpvpS4O1lQhmDP2vHTkitr2tdpo1Tee9nA9QtUuV8RKFjfCJEhBnpcJ PCb6GGfJRyQNPkSwor6I2mCBek3gu6mXDtx/FilXEfSuRfYXUFuS5bbqhcg9t4CHRa5hJsLi6 kNpWjZHjIcnvSEtQLx54oDLcNgJiBOAc9ri99H3ZRWXTEb+48RzDftpn01BCl2sHb28/B6s1o 7Q9Rrbtoq7Qmv0cR5T8p4K8MCVTnHKcBbSigQOXkhRUNDzbtD/bBqazgFplBwCuvGbn6L80Mq nF7ISsmuMU+m5w53mxDhEAv7UoPJAuqXm5O1Rdi1BWxqFIDBMN1rsWVbbevMQtSsTCsJtWxSh Beea5xM0dAhAc7gpP3zUXB7u5vYNpVHsAGFb8xf6JEOIq3nJ/WTIMbSLeSlbPhCLfm+3SuPj5 WZ+ftDzHLgJtOTtypBv704Cvq5na1y28sav+OQC2xxT6IsjfniZws/Y3CHQ0UeZQXPLJU+vD+ vYjlXihnF+rlY6zlHioUfyWfiKEpXo+C3KIQe+K0DzU+5rhCXH0uvou2f0XnV2THuLPywq4qe d3hzE7M+7pvWJ3OmEn10GmKW2N21WnGTxE5Y7rEXQPCPw6C3kIxKh5cAxjFyXTEsyjpDuVcL X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221850 Archived-At: > A lot. I'm firmly against removing toolkits to appease GTK. I think > GTK is an unholy mess, which can some day simply stop being supported, > and we definitely shouldn't lose useful features in its favor. Unfortunately I have to fully agree with Eli. But I'd strongly support the removal of gtkutil.h/c in favor of the addition of gtkfns.c, gtkterm.h/c, gtkmenu.c and maybe some others. And I think at least one or two other developers might help us in this regard (or they already started to implement that). martin