From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix some tooltip related problems Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:20:29 +0100 Message-ID: <5A55E8ED.1010602@gmx.at> References: <5A533FA4.4030507@gmx.at> <9384bae5-cbb9-4b4d-ac5c-1d01f01c8117@default> <5A53B633.5020706@gmx.at> <41d40db5-15d8-4b2c-a058-fb6dabc8bfd3@default> <5A548E7E.2040601@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515579636 8546 195.159.176.226 (10 Jan 2018 10:20:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:20:36 +0000 (UTC) To: Drew Adams , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 10 11:20:32 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZDUl-0001zU-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:20:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58977 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZDWk-00073a-Kr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZDV0-0006Pi-9O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZDUv-0003BH-JZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:20:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:55099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZDUv-00039u-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:20:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.46]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwJko-1ewdek2QqE-0184Rs; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:20:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5dFpleXjd7pnQOemVbwfu20lmtz4wAVU5+pcbJOCd1DJ272NiX6 d/xxg9QHHfMj4uPh4+7+g3jjGeW1Shuu8rDfk0sz/v10H4zuiQBJMBMiQS5XJ66imQmKqTd NQNc7hQGLaYLsAvm6yUKoC+5Ej0WwNwFLeGkm6e8i0o/RnHaDdN00HrM1Nh+32DoXP9orPp vHjyVIo9B5Guey2nNDccQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:AKuPCFI7p9c=:KChDe4VCEZlapjn5BAkmwp QOFPPeOJFSQ7g45sN++CFvX+dBSx80ZM5oNycutlK4zyO6vNyW55Bv1cvJ4xtqBkHIzCjooBF EuxyWMCC79SlqxmC7jYmutukK8TX08WtiCu6AvgWmG0UGj5iGZuc7z5gsBEIfawFdSk0F5QDN PNUMh64jrP9GgstdTkwC7aJLg4ajPeXDJ4+9Xc6tV1t4PrifRJTxSqRJGByRwUjpTtWTX4ZxH aiONpw/YkTcwbwTz3nKq6xB6A4zMM9zV0SSHE3zY8vBO8dct7GHsMgNpEeFaMNxhHT2OXQaCq AMIPNb+Nb/xFCwmbD+1IiCsdROVpTTEeFZHEqpaQicLOvJ7wIQRNiFlg0XAEwYFsgk5BfRea7 BQJjR77VvHyUs5U9tAQB7RjWlZdMXeCax8EWQIsVopXKHtbd6m1kWL0/bUvEPMbH+Q+3CqKqc mU+ZAhaa8CpIrWxNmvfEtmorEQhDrOyqjclRGpoJbMlqpodkduHMpHF9XAkUieow6CrliL4ZW czCLI5P68o9sgabXd4TfPaSC+IkY8YdCs11+RQ/hK8G/pJj7iyyTz12MaRjBYdABv6rde/ue5 qY8WadwuFv9FpWn7cq7WUTuqH2n0dgdm+T0cQREoQBYX6lEgNJYgIkPoc2gPZPuLnqEKp9bue IwoDbbh5NXGj+ONsEPVVc+8XGDXYN6xR1mlkOUNK7T+hKu5lh0faSeOTNbH6QvnorJH7lpTgn u56fKnRJlLgasxPqKntw7/SoGdXBlYR26ato6IQ5jmPuywogulONPEBTr07ugi4Of1AgSVy2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221783 Archived-At: > A lot CAN be learned from such info. That's why we > (and zillions of other applications) show it - dimmed. Have you ever seen one of those zillion applications show a dimmed tooltip? >> > It would be good to dim them, however. >> >> There's no option to do that and there won't be any >> with system tooltips. > > Why not? > > Are you saying that this _cannot_ be done or only that > you've decided that it "won't" be done? If the latter, > why? It cannot be done. System tooltips have a uniform appearance. So dimming is not applicable for the default user on GNU/Linux - the vast majority of Emacs users. IIUC the same holds for Mac users. martin