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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Bastian Beischer <bastian.beischer@gmail.com>,
	bug#28645 <28645@debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: bug#28645: Status: 26.0.50; semantic-ia-fast-jump jumps to a random place in buffer
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:03:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59D4A3D5.2030005@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873770y3f9.fsf@gmail.com>

 > I would also be grateful for a little bit of background information. At
 > which point did it become necessary to use 'pop-to-buffer' instead of
 > 'switch-to-buffer'? Apparently 'semantic-ia-fast-jump' et al worked fine
 > in older emacs versions.
 >
 > When is it ok to use 'switch-to-buffer'? There are numerous occurences
 > of it throughout emacs...

Consider the following scenario:

(1) ‘switch-to-buffer-preserve-window-point’ is t (it is so by default).

(2) An application explicitly sets point in a buffer that is currently
     not displayed in the selected window to a value different from the
     value of ‘window-point’ of that window at the last time this buffer
     was displayed there.

(3) The application wants to switch to the buffer in the selected window
     with ‘window-point’ at the position of point assigned in (2).

If the application used ‘switch-to-buffer’ in (3), then ‘window-point’
will be reset to the old location of ‘window-point’ which is obviously
not what the application wants.  So to get what it wants, an application
either has to bind ‘switch-to-buffer-preserve-window-point’ to nil
around the ‘switch-to-buffer’ call or use ‘pop-to-buffer-same-window’
(‘display-buffer-same-window’ if the window may remain unselected)
instead.

IMHO applications should never call ‘switch-to-buffer’.  They should
either call ‘pop-to-buffer’ - if the user is supposed to now continue
working in the window showing the buffer - and ‘display-buffer’ in all
other cases.  Both allow the user to control how to display the buffer.

Only if there is a clear preference that the buffer should be shown in
the _selected_ window, the ‘-same-window’ functions should be called.
And programmers should be aware that at the time they want to show a
buffer in the selected window, that window might be the minibuffer
window or a window dedicated to some other buffer.

martin






  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-04  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-29 13:23 bug#28645: 26.0.50; semantic-ia-fast-jump jumps to a random place in buffer Constantine
2017-09-29 14:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-29 14:57   ` Constantine
2017-09-29 18:18   ` martin rudalics
2017-09-30 14:19     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-03  9:40 ` bug#28645: Status: " Bastian Beischer
2017-10-04  9:03   ` martin rudalics [this message]
2017-10-04 11:11     ` Bastian Beischer
2017-10-05  8:09       ` martin rudalics
2017-10-15 23:06   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-16 10:21     ` Bastian Beischer
2017-10-17  8:58       ` martin rudalics
2017-10-17 10:44       ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-17 12:30         ` Bastian Beischer
2017-10-18 23:46           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-19  9:41             ` Bastian Beischer
2017-10-19 10:03               ` Dmitry Gutov

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