* bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command'
@ 2014-07-23 19:54 Drew Adams
2014-07-23 20:16 ` Drew Adams
2016-04-29 22:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-07-23 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 18092
Define COMMAND as a prefix command. COMMAND should be a symbol.
A new sparse keymap is stored as COMMAND's function definition and its value.
If a second optional argument MAPVAR is given, the map is stored as
its value instead of as COMMAND's value; but COMMAND is still defined
as a function.
The third optional argument NAME, if given, supplies a menu name
string for the map. This is required to use the keymap as a menu.
This function returns COMMAND.
1. It is not at all clear what the occurrence of "its" in the 4th
sentence ("If a second...") refers to. And this part of the doc
string should explicitly say what MAPVAR is: a symbol that is used as
a variable - it is given the map as value.
2. The second line of the doc string is too long - should not be more
than 70 chars long.
In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
of 2014-06-28 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 117431 rgm@gnu.org-20140628015517-eku6hj8mpgcvfnso
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
`configure --prefix=/c/Devel/emacs/snapshot/trunk
--enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3'
LDFLAGS=-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib 'CPPFLAGS=-DGC_MCHECK=1
-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include''
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* bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command'
2014-07-23 19:54 bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command' Drew Adams
@ 2014-07-23 20:16 ` Drew Adams
2016-04-29 22:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-04-29 22:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-07-23 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 18092
Things are actually worse than that.
The notion of "prefix command" is not introduced or explained anywhere.
It is not in either the Emacs manual or the Elisp manual.
`define-prefix-command' has been around for a long time, but it is a
poorly chosen name. The symbol is NOT defined as a command or even
as a function (it is fboundp but not functionp or commandp).
This name is misleading and confusing.
The Elisp manual speaks better of `define-prefix-command', by saying
that it "prepares SYMBOL for use as a prefix key's binding" - nothing
about "prefix command". Such wording should be used also for the doc
string.
It would even be good to rename the function (keeping
`define-prefix-command' as a deprecated alias). Maybe something like
`prepare-symbol-for-prefix-key'.
The doc should also make clear that the value it puts in the function
cell is a new, empty keymap. Thus, if you do
(define-prefix-command 'foo), and then you define keys in that keymap,
and then you do (define-prefix-command 'foo) again, the keys you
bound earlier are lost (since a new map is now used for foo).
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* bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command'
2014-07-23 20:16 ` Drew Adams
@ 2016-04-29 22:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2016-04-29 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18092
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> Things are actually worse than that.
>
> The notion of "prefix command" is not introduced or explained anywhere.
> It is not in either the Emacs manual or the Elisp manual.
>
> `define-prefix-command' has been around for a long time, but it is a
> poorly chosen name. The symbol is NOT defined as a command or even
> as a function (it is fboundp but not functionp or commandp).
> This name is misleading and confusing.
>
> The Elisp manual speaks better of `define-prefix-command', by saying
> that it "prepares SYMBOL for use as a prefix key's binding" - nothing
> about "prefix command". Such wording should be used also for the doc
> string.
True. I've now added a sentence mimicing the info text.
> It would even be good to rename the function (keeping
> `define-prefix-command' as a deprecated alias). Maybe something like
> `prepare-symbol-for-prefix-key'.
>
> The doc should also make clear that the value it puts in the function
> cell is a new, empty keymap. Thus, if you do
> (define-prefix-command 'foo), and then you define keys in that keymap,
> and then you do (define-prefix-command 'foo) again, the keys you
> bound earlier are lost (since a new map is now used for foo).
It says:
A new sparse keymap is stored as COMMAND's function definition and its
value.
I think that's pretty unambiguous.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command'
2014-07-23 19:54 bug#18092: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-prefix-command' Drew Adams
2014-07-23 20:16 ` Drew Adams
@ 2016-04-29 22:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2016-04-29 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18092
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> Define COMMAND as a prefix command. COMMAND should be a symbol.
> A new sparse keymap is stored as COMMAND's function definition and its value.
> If a second optional argument MAPVAR is given, the map is stored as
> its value instead of as COMMAND's value; but COMMAND is still defined
> as a function.
> The third optional argument NAME, if given, supplies a menu name
> string for the map. This is required to use the keymap as a menu.
> This function returns COMMAND.
>
> 1. It is not at all clear what the occurrence of "its" in the 4th
> sentence ("If a second...") refers to. And this part of the doc
> string should explicitly say what MAPVAR is: a symbol that is used as
> a variable - it is given the map as value.
Yes, that's quite unclear. I've now clarified.
> 2. The second line of the doc string is too long - should not be more
> than 70 chars long.
And filled.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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