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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: xr
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 14:39:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5904ECC1-8E45-49FB-B457-2924519733DA@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvfts7tt4o.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

1 mars 2019 kl. 00.06 skrev Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>:

> I'm definitely in favor of using the standard * + and ?

They are suggestive but I find `?' a bit on the hacky side. For instance, you can't break the line after the operator, since it requires a space following.

>> any char in
> 
> I think I prefer `char` or `in`.

Interestingly, (not (any ...)) and (not (in ...)) are valid, but (not (char ...)) isn't (although there is `not-char').

Another implementation leak: since `any' is also an alias for `not-newline', `char' and `in' are as well:
(rx any char in) => "..."

>> line-start bol
>> line-end eol
>> string-start buffer-start bos bot
>> string-end buffer-end eos eot
>> word-start bow
>> word-end eow
> 
> I like the boX/eoX nomenclature.
> 
> The main benefit of RX is to make the structure more visible, and the
> main downside is to make regexp more verbose, so I think short
> identifiers are preferable.

There is definitely merit to that, although I also have sympathy for the verbosity preferred by others.
Lisp seems to cope with long identifiers better than most other languages (dashes permitted, easy line breaking).

I'm leaning towards giving xr a brief and verbose options, and let the default be in the middle somewhere.

>> sequence seq and :
> 
> I'm strongly opposed to `and` because that should mean the
> conjunction/intersection of two regexps (i.e. a string matches it only
> if it matches both sub-regexps) rather than the sequential concatenation.
> [ lex.el supports such intersections.  ]

Strongly agreed!




  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-01 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-01 14:09 [ELPA] New package: xr Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-01 15:25 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-01 15:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-01 18:39     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-01 15:51   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-01 18:41     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-02  9:43       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-02 15:15         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-02 18:41           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-03  9:37             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-03 20:11             ` Juri Linkov
2019-02-03 21:04               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-03 21:13               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-05 16:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-05 22:37   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-06  0:04     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-05 23:00   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-06  0:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-06  0:25       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-02-06  0:34         ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-06  1:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-06 12:43       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-07  4:34         ` pcre2el Richard Stallman
2019-02-07  7:11           ` pcre2el John Wiegley
2019-02-07 14:54           ` pcre2el Stefan Monnier
2019-02-06  0:02   ` [ELPA] New package: xr Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-06  0:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-06  7:02   ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-06 15:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-07  4:36       ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-07 14:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-08  3:21           ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-08  3:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-08  7:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-08 10:06                 ` Stephen Berman
2019-02-09  3:37                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-09  8:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-09  3:38                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-09  8:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-10  5:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-10 15:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-11  5:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-10  5:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-10 15:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-09  3:37               ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-27 15:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-27 16:22   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-27 17:09     ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-02-28 14:10       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-28 14:34         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-28 23:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-01 13:39           ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2019-03-01 13:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-01  5:29         ` Van L
2019-03-01 13:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-01 15:25         ` Michael Heerdegen

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