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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" <lekktu@gmail.com>,
	"'Daniel Colascione'" <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' filesare written
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:24:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58D82C28C53E4499B15C57A4FE2687F1@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeL0SRye_AKt8vc5=HbATfgGfH+gBxbwcsspFcFcb7p5-b5Fw@mail.gmail.com>

> > All my other programs store program-generated files under 
> > AppData. None writes indiscriminately to the current directory
> > in the event of a crash.
> 
> Do you have many Windows programs that do generate a backtrace file in
> the event of failure? And do they all write to %APPDATA%?
> 
> If the answer to both questions is "yes", are these Cygwin programs?

Why not add "and whose name is `Emacs'" while you're at it?

Seriously, this is not only about applications that generate a backtrace file.
It's about the etiquette that applications generally respect on Windows, in
order to respect the user and user data.

Why narrow it to applications that write backtrace files?  Is there something
particular about that case which should exclude it from respecting of the normal
etiquette?

Sure, if a program absolutely CANNOT respect the expected behavior because of
some hard constraint, then maybe that's a reason to make it an exception.  So
far, we haven't seen such a reason, AFAICT.  It might not be super simple for
Emacs to DTRT here, but that's not the same thing as saying that it CANNOT do
so.

And of course we have several decades of Emacs use without this new feature, in
which Emacs has not found it necessary to go beyond the pale.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-21 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-16 20:48 bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Drew Adams
2012-11-16 21:05 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt'files " Drew Adams
2012-11-16 21:19 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files " Stefan Monnier
2012-11-17  7:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 17:38     ` Drew Adams
2012-11-17 17:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 18:24         ` Drew Adams
2012-11-19  1:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19  3:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19  4:07         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 15:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 18:04             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 18:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 18:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 18:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 19:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 20:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 21:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20  3:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20  4:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20  5:02                               ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-20 13:16                                 ` Andy Moreton
2012-11-20 16:27                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:03                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:36                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-20 18:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 18:57                                       ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' " Drew Adams
2012-11-20 19:58                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 21:47                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21  3:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-21  4:03                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-21 15:43                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 16:24                                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
     [not found]                                                     ` <E86D7DFBD2BD4C3394E5316EF0321A! 95@us.oracle.com>
2012-11-21 16:45                                                     ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' filesare written Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 17:40                                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21 17:43                                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 18:01                                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21 18:13                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 18:42                                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-11-20 18:30                                   ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 18:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 20:15                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 16:36                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-20 17:11                                 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt'files " Drew Adams
2012-11-20 17:53                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 18:10                                     ` Drew Adams
2012-11-20 18:27                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 19:15                                         ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-20 19:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 20:11                                             ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-20 20:37                                             ` selected-frame and selected-window Stefan Monnier
2012-11-21 17:05                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-08 12:24                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08 23:51                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-09  3:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-14 15:53                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-14 16:04                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:49                                 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Eli Zaretskii

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