From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25851: 25.2; GTK warning when starting Emacs when desktop file has more than one frame Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:25:53 +0100 Message-ID: <58D637A1.3010308@gmx.at> References: <87a89c51qb.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <58D3804E.5030109@gmx.at> <4f44f0fb-96fe-4326-8a0c-c87e4ef17613@default> <58D4E06D.8020708@gmx.at> <87a88ae7h9.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490434090 31774 195.159.176.226 (25 Mar 2017 09:28:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 09:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25851@debbugs.gnu.org To: "N. 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That makes sense. But placement > of restored windows at startup is not micromanagement in my opinion. > After all, it is putting windows back in the position that the Window > Manager placed them in the first place, or back in the position that the > user moved them to. Right from our POV. But the window manager wouldn't know that these frames are just "put back". Note also that I do not necessarily agree with that text - it just might explain the rationale of the windowing systems or window managers we use. martin