From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stuart D. Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clarification of eval-after-load [was: Problem mit symlinks, locate-library and load-history] Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <58982.128.165.123.132.1147365967.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147366035 6659 80.91.229.2 (11 May 2006 16:47:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 11 18:47:10 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEJ3-0006Pe-P5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 18:46:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEJ3-0005KU-B5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEIq-0005Ju-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEIo-0005It-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEIo-0005In-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.65.95.54] (helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FeEKL-00037D-UX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:47:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id k4BGk9gV002604 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:46:10 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id k4BGk8l8014958; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:46:08 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4BGk80P015925; Thu, 11 May 2006 10:46:08 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id k4BGk7BG015923; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:46:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.123.132 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434); by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Thu, 11 May 2006 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-To: "Alan Mackenzie" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-11.EL3 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-11.EL3 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54269 Archived-At: > (i) "FILE must match exactly" doesn't say what FILE must match, or how it > must match it, and it is unclear what "exactly" means. Given this > description, I would not expect the argument "font-lock" to match the > file name "font-lock.elc", but it does. :-( This may be a horribly naive question, but why doesn't this mechanism just use the `provide'd symbols? Is there really much need to use `eval-after-load' with libraries that are considered so basic (i.e., automatically loaded) that they don't provide anything? I would think that things like `emacs-startup-hook' would be sufficient for that. It just seems eminently clear to me what (eval-after-provide 'dired (unload-feature 'dired)) intends to do, and how to define it precisely. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.