From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Belliveau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Compilation in C and ADA Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: <58715494-1664-4734-8C85-6C9F38A83B81@comcast.net> References: <87shv5sf78.fsf@ram.bvr.dp.lan> <4781A7A0-F110-47CC-A19D-0C9F1619FD23@comcast.net> <87y44xors9.fsf@ram.bvr.dp.lan> <86twfgz969.fsf@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469334145 30651 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2016 04:22:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 04:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 24 06:22:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bRAvZ-0003iG-MJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 06:22:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRAvY-0003YX-RS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRAvC-0003YS-3Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:21:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRAv8-00075w-3b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.160]:46314) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRAux-00075T-QW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:21:42 -0400 Original-Received: from resomta-po-15v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.239]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id RAttbFZHBucHZRAtxbg6so; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 04:20:29 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1469334029; bh=1OQ/nvUke63gwKe3QKgWFCCIlY3mTPuxmyXcDWdUj1Y=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=FrxxpkZqvPrXIhdZUoIiczQ0S7yeEBdGqZWCwbA+MZJ7NCr9z0YZ7t6QUlQTIPNMz OIbr5EzdBHBGfTmyMYKXtp7IiHNVCIkhsN9MeeE8ZV8V2+DSkR3eQ9LJIQPI2fANNq DwrXarsEM7AgLjft5BS8Wu9+ika0wNPDM1wDhaly1K6WUMKBeD/urKKY7KXfMtZAiF xPQZrtOJVBP4bJN/8y8BzuTRVj4t6HgUd1uKh/3lOgYUDj2y9TXtmNj+aQW9w5Y1B3 Y2YlWVl1OHZDMo7xl687uDuuaWK/frXY7b+Wqq5DNoriYy3ljkFV0ygthmVOi23g0c nmDsi7OFuig9Q== Original-Received: from [172.17.91.211] ([40.133.226.66]) by comcast with SMTP id RAtmbQvafO4ovRAtpbJ3Jj; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 04:20:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86twfgz969.fsf@student.uu.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKNlZ7uyMHkqTmkYiOZUOEkFywkcwzvlL+gh6yP8eKWRqPHZA7Kw9gmPuZDW+y5d8ac0nrwv+6fQ+P8/LFp2qOkihw2+fplMdqVhvJu9ndAizPVL6G5A iGvhoIhcp5v7c4Y+SiVt/NDDoZkdMZKwjiRJthkiyipVl0LVFIih7yXnj8pdDkm+xqxqFdrFO1i49CqgyuHntgCkyPBhVTzova8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 96.114.154.160 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110919 Archived-At: A lot of good comments that I pretty much agree with, but there is a = small difference of opinion and I am feeling incompletely understood. 1. I agree that most projects should have a makefile, regardless of the = language(s) used, or the number of files that need to be "built". 2. Yes, the functional execution of the default is doing a good job of = saying what it is looking for and why it is not functioning. It says it = is calling make and cannot find a makefile. 3. As far as which compiler to use, you might as well assume "gcc" since = "make" is not always there either. There are many flavors of make that = "make -k" would not be compatible with. The basic disagreement is that "make" or "build" is not synonymous with = "compile". I do consider both make" and "build" synonymous with each = other in this context. Compile is but one step toward building or making an executable or a = project. A makefile that only compiles sources without combining them = together into a unit, such as a library, archive, or executable, is not = worth writing. Yes, many compilers, gcc included, can be fed a complex command line to = compile a single file and turn it into an executable application. = However, even though you would be using a compiler to perform the = function, that function is a "make" or "build" fiction that includes = "compile" as one of the steps. At this point I am either beating a dead horse, or trying to convince = some of you that I am right when you will never agree. I feel like I = have said the same thing twice so if you do not agree with me then we = should just agree to disagree and drop things there so that we do not = turn this into some sort of war over what some readers may consider to = be minor semantics. No offense meant to any of you and none taken by me at this point. 73 to all, Fran=