Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[seberino]

There seems to be some special use for C-m as I cannot rebind it to a
function of my choosing like start-kbd-macro.

Is there anyway to make C-m into a "normal" combo I can bind like all
the others?

chris

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Xend]

On Nov 28, 3:30 pm, "seber...@spawar.navy.mil"
<seber...@spawar.navy.mil> wrote:
> There seems to be some special use for C-m as I cannot rebind it to a
> function of my choosing like start-kbd-macro.
>
> Is there anyway to make C-m into a "normal" combo I can bind like all
> the others?
>
> chris

you can try "(global-set-key (kbd "C-m") function)"????

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Xah Lee]

On Nov 27, 11:30 pm, "seber...@spawar.navy.mil"
<seber...@spawar.navy.mil> wrote:
> There seems to be some special use for C-m as I cannot rebind it to a
> function of my choosing like start-kbd-macro.
>
> Is there anyway to make C-m into a "normal" combo I can bind like all
> the others?

there are ways but that gets into pretty hairy emacs customization.

Ctrl+m is same as Enter in emacs. Best to avoid rebinding it.
Similar is Ctrl+i and Tab key.

The reason it's like that is because emacs's history, namely the
ascii.

Note also, by default, starting/ending keyboard macro is F2 and F3.
For a visual layout, see:

• Emacs's Keybinding Layout
  http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_kb_shortcuts.html

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

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Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[seberino]

On Nov 28, 6:04 am, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 11:30 pm, "seber...@spawar.navy.mil"
>
> <seber...@spawar.navy.mil> wrote:
> > There seems to be some special use for C-m as I cannot rebind it to a
> > function of my choosing like start-kbd-macro.
>
> > Is there anyway to make C-m into a "normal" combo I can bind like all
> > the others?
>
> there are ways but that gets into pretty hairy emacs customization.
>
> Ctrl+m is same as Enter in emacs. Best to avoid rebinding it.
> Similar is Ctrl+i and Tab key.

Thanks.  If someone had done the work already I'd still like to do it.
Why? C-i is sooo natural for an insert function and C-m is sooo
natural for a macro function.

Chris

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Joost Diepenmaat]

"seberino@spawar.navy.mil" <seberino@spawar.navy.mil> writes:

> Thanks.  If someone had done the work already I'd still like to do it.
> Why? C-i is sooo natural for an insert function and C-m is sooo
> natural for a macro function.

I think Xah already alluded to the reasons: C-i is TAB in most
terminals, and C-m is ENTER.

-- 
Joost Diepenmaat | blog: http://joost.zeekat.nl/ | work: http://zeekat.nl/

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Andreas Politz]

seberino@spawar.navy.mil wrote:
> On Nov 28, 6:04 am, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 11:30 pm, "seber...@spawar.navy.mil"
>>
>> <seber...@spawar.navy.mil> wrote:
>>> There seems to be some special use for C-m as I cannot rebind it to a
>>> function of my choosing like start-kbd-macro.
>>> Is there anyway to make C-m into a "normal" combo I can bind like all
>>> the others?
>> there are ways but that gets into pretty hairy emacs customization.
>>
>> Ctrl+m is same as Enter in emacs. Best to avoid rebinding it.
>> Similar is Ctrl+i and Tab key.
> 
> Thanks.  If someone had done the work already I'd still like to do it.
> Why? C-i is sooo natural for an insert function and C-m is sooo
> natural for a macro function.
> 
> Chris
> 

You can do it, at least in a windowed emacs:

(global-set-key [return]
		#'(lambda nil (interactive)
		    (message "This is RETURN.")))

(global-set-key [13]
		#'(lambda nil (interactive)
		    (message "This is C-m.")))
;; undo
(progn					
   (global-unset-key [return])
   (global-set-key [13] 'newline))


The problem, I think, is that most libraries end up
binding C-m and not [return] (likewise for C-i and [tab]).
So you have to always rebind after some mode has stolen
the C-m key (to [return]).

-ap

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Kevin Rodgers]

seberino@spawar.navy.mil wrote:
> Why? C-i is sooo natural for an insert function and C-m is sooo
> natural for a macro function.

`C-c i' and `C-c m' might be better:

,---- File: emacs,  Node: Rebinding,  Next: Init Rebinding,  Prev: 
Minibuffer Maps,  Up: Key Bindings
|
|    The two-character keys consisting of `C-c' followed by a letter are
| reserved for user customizations.  Lisp programs are not supposed to
| define these keys, so the bindings you make for them will be available
| in all major modes and will never get in the way of anything.
`----

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA

Re: Possible to rebind C-m to a function? (like any other control key combo?)

[Xah Lee]

On Nov 29, 10:31 am, Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> seber...@spawar.navy.mil wrote:
> > Why? C-i is sooo natural for an insert function and C-m is sooo
> > natural for a macro function.
>
> `C-c i' and `C-c m' might be better:
>
> ,---- File: emacs,  Node: Rebinding,  Next: Init Rebinding,  Prev:
> Minibuffer Maps,  Up: Key Bindings
> |
> |    The two-character keys consisting of `C-c' followed by a letter are
> | reserved for user customizations.  Lisp programs are not supposed to
> | define these keys, so the bindings you make for them will be available
> | in all major modes and will never get in the way of anything.
> `----

This, although being emacs's canon, but perhaps it is not a good thing
to spread, because C-c is the modern standard for Coping text, used by
Windows, Mac, Linux.

Emacs 23 by default now supports text selection highlighting, although
not CUA mode. Spreading C-c will make it more painful if emacs is to
change on this in the future.

just today i'm reaing about Google Chrome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
you can see that there are a lot innovations, which by definition
means a lot of breaking “old ways”. Emacs is pretty much remained the
old ways all the way back to 1980s. Some of the old ways are
technically superior, but not all.

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

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