From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24579: [PATCH] borderless windows on OS X Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 18:39:25 +0200 Message-ID: <57F1383D.4040600@gmx.at> References: <20161001212613.GA40646@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <20161001230457.GA50451@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <496bdc1e-b673-228c-d253-b0eef6e08c21@gmail.com> <57F0C5A2.1060206@gmx.at> <20161002150745.GA58717@breton.holly.idiocy.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475426423 3771 195.159.176.226 (2 Oct 2016 16:40:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24579@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel To: Alan Third Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 18:40:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjoG-00008a-6x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 18:40:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60182 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjoE-0003OU-Qm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:40:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjo6-0003Lz-El for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjo2-0007GX-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjo2-0007GT-4d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjo1-0003O7-SZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:40:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24579 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24579-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24579.147542639312988 (code B ref 24579); Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24579) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2016 16:39:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42125 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjnt-0003NQ-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:57683) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqjnr-0003N9-Bb for 24579@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.70]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjuR3-1bJayT3WLB-00bqmn; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 18:39:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20161002150745.GA58717@breton.holly.idiocy.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:e7bwbARdHSzxc36O+0GTMPTAE2q7EW+aq45yc3I/TH+8nQ3Jury TqKIcnEmqtU31MAm+I0AgCvNBWACunxNEXvlTMyyLQEFkJ6TevXajeOZrlD5rQFs9l+p/E4 JygA3TvHlmwZPrduK6Y3aKCUvdr1lpoJBenfpz70bFXZPG0xNjDunGbcFMSSE4UuuAW/4eS hGnEFuHMq6FUnzcIe2HQA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:EoC5Sgdrzrw=:8LeqFXyG0f3c9T64FpBD1G OoPgUouP464TTPko7nDlGwvdcbvkwkwtc0HiBmizSqz6Znmyb2NI4KvjfYlXbm/xyYOVCGe/C r2XMm7wv3jKDjUknff1dJBgpt5n7GtzY+ro9MYPCJg5eI0+3DS0VW3dhNxjtp0AAp5EsBaCUu F9js/DFy0R/N3cguiqwVtyv0NZBxnINatov/wqLcif+l/2yXDoa0PMjA7uDDANW/2Dw5fulkO Ga9Ix9mwx14aNfw3QuTtJKN422p2ayXltDeZQapQ/pBUdkHTkxJWyvhs5qAfXl4KndMZEsWKa xw51nwCvOryEJFKEi807H0JoMfTjBSJO2cFyIYPPK5pu/WQ18MQXcSIk/JVDG0RoJBIMGZw2x 2UDef+s714ZG7pTyTwQA8DOEb3InNfTokB9+N1USKHIq2m9VNFD9mRSd8l5MD1vQmptEPR98L 3I9NFrMtaU6yhXybcCNcgaYsf5FZYIyojKhRj+dI6/W0yVjNNZWE2EwYT1MObereDxQPwSycI vLNcIcK3bYD5JmGoN0zxJ/yxVaedQKasNNuvBuaBRVwhDk3ApxYw0ijgEBGSQmMXnoi0Tj/Dy mdANFfjZ1rD7ha/Fb0YDO9u0fhYAdy81WoFQyrsutc9Cl4t0WE1M5AKV3hOLnhtfa0xgNW08R 05hOoR5vUGe11Gw7LIviEbUZyh/1jPAKsIgUIU2jJ941bEJQj0W7z8PzfoMnwO+kCMCNey8Xl z4GAdt6ymgYg6zRhdTkoLODgW/bpJIo9Ve7MxM/JLgU2RW4C5/IVU0sQGKbVWJXEuRu352S1 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123901 Archived-At: >> We do: Emacs' native tooltip frames with a =E2=80=98border-width=E2=80= =99 of zero should >> accomplish precisely that. > > Do we not have them in NS too? If so that would make this patch rather= > superfluous. NS tooltips are toolkit based. To my knowledge you can't emulate neither "normal frames" nor Emacs' native tooltip frames with them. > I hadn=E2=80=99t even really thought about this, I figured that on GNU= /Linux > systems you can get the same behaviour through the window manager, but= > that=E2=80=99s impossible on OS X. I can see the other argument, thoug= h. Which one is the "other argument"? > I=E2=80=99ll hold off committing until there=E2=80=99s some sort of ag= reement. As I stated earlier, my remarks should be disregarded in any form of such= agreement. martin