From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Davis Herring Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding streams for standard out and standard err Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:15:46 -0600 Organization: XCP-1 Message-ID: <57914991.1050807@lanl.gov> References: <87oa5sexis.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg6nysug.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2ge3jsl.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469139394 13144 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2016 22:16:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 22 00:16:26 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bQMGY-0005dK-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 00:16:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQMGX-0002zl-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42135) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQMG1-0002ze-DI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:15:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQMFx-0001jX-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from proofpoint4.lanl.gov ([2001:400:4210:400::a4]:54724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQMFw-0001jG-Q2; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailgate4.lanl.gov (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with ESMTP id u6LMFkdk003327; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:15:46 -0600 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CA6140A74B; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:15:46 -0600 (MDT) X-NIE-2-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailrelay1.lanl.gov Original-Received: from snares.lanl.gov (snares.lanl.gov [128.165.123.245]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280A0140A729; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:15:46 -0600 (MDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <87k2ge3jsl.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.15.96, 1.0.3, 0.0.0000 definitions=2016-07-21_11:2016-07-21, 2016-07-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:400:4210:400::a4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206004 Archived-At: [Philip: I fumbled this message, sending it once just to you and losing my copy. Sorry for the near-duplicate.] > Yep. I would imagine that debugging to standard out will not become > popular as a tool for debugging TTY display. There are still options there: redirect stderr (since it's unbuffered) to a FIFO and read it with less(1), or use the multi-tty feature to separate the frame being debugged from the original controlling terminal... Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.