Re: Use cases for post-redisplay hooks

["Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>]

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On 2016-07-04 12:39, Clément Pit--Claudel wrote:
> Hi emacs-devel,
> 
> As a prelude to implementing the actual functionality, I'd like to get a clearer picture of what use cases exist for post-redisplay hooks.

Summarizing the current discussion:

(1) Is still valid, though Richard did suggest that we could have Emacs take the screenshots itself. It would indeed be a useful feature to have, though it is partly orthogonal, and seems non-trivial to implement. Richard also suggested special casing this feature and implementing only that instead of a post-display-hook.

(2) Does not sound like it would benefit significantly from such a hook (but I may have missed something).

(3) Does not resolve to something concrete.

Clément.

> Here are the ones that I'm currently aware of; can you think of other ones?
> 
> 1. (my own) Generating emacs screenshots. You can see a demo at http://web.mit.edu/cpitcla/www/emacs-screencast-annot.gif (let me know what you think!). Other hooks do not work because:
>   - pre-redisplay-functions are called too early
>   - pre- and post-command-hook do not run often enough (in the screencast above, see the butterfly animation, for example)
>   - window-related hooks do not run often enough either
>   - redisplay-end-trigger-functions are tricky to use, and deprecated
> 
> 2. (Keith David Bershatsky + Michael Heerdegen @ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2016-01/msg01013.html) Updating overlays after scrolling.  The bug thread is pretty long and subtle, but this issue has also been discussed on emacs.stackexchanged IIRC.
> 
> 3. (Stefan? @ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-02/msg00785.html) Running code every time "something visible" happens (e.g. due to process filters)
> 
> For number 1, and potentially number 3, a hook that run after redisplay completes entirely would work. For number 2, things are less clear. Michael, Keith, and Eli, do you have ideas of when in the display cycle such a hook should run?
> 
> Thanks!
> Clément.
> 
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