Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole

[Scott Randby <srandby@gmail.com>]

On 06/30/2016 01:58 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
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>    > This seems to be a major part of your issue with Org mode.  Could you
>    > explain in some detail what you mean specifically by having to learn
>    > basic Org mode before seeing what its features are?
>
> I don't remember -- it was years ago that I took a look at it
> and gave up.  I don't have time to revisit it now.
>

It is hard to take this criticism of Org seriously when it comes from 
the uninformed position of not knowing how to use either old or recent 
versions of it. Org has its flaws, but the the alleged failure of 
various unspecified pieces to work outside of Org isn't one of them.

Org originated as a project outside of Emacs and it wasn't an official 
part of Emacs until recent years. It is natural that its elements are 
meant to work in Org. If an element happens to work outside of Org, that 
is just a lucky circumstance. If there is a desire to use Org elements 
outside of Org, then please write the code to do that, or fork Org, or 
start a new project. Org is free software after all.

The Org community is very open to suggestions for improvement. If anyone 
has specific suggestions for improvements to Org, instead of vague 
pronouncements about alleged failures, then please send them to the Org 
mailing list.

I started using Org long before it was an official part of Emacs, and it 
appears to me that perhaps incorporating Org into official Emacs was the 
failure, not the inability of some of its components to work outside of Org.

Scott Randby