From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: auto-indent in emacs Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:39:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57374.130.55.118.19.1259609973.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <6bd43112-0ffd-482a-be72-0cbb579ed1b8@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <87tywc9gpi.fsf@ergodik.univ-brest.fr> <87eingm00k.fsf@gmx.de> <200911301726.nAUHQ0nf014925@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <35102.130.55.118.19.1259608819.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <200911301923.nAUJNIBg015886@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259611369 10086 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2009 20:02:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sebastian Rose , Lennart Borgman , emacs help , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Dan Nicolaescu" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 21:02:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NFCSC-00046h-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:02:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42643 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFCSC-00031t-B4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:02:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFC6A-0001EW-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:39:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFC65-00018y-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43023 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFC60-00011j-1N; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:39:40 -0500 Original-Received: from proofpoint2.lanl.gov ([204.121.3.26]:55405) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NFC5z-0002x3-5j; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by proofpoint2.lanl.gov (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAUJdYe2005947; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:39:34 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8C115CD5F4; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:39:34 -0700 (MST) X-NIE-2-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailrelay2.lanl.gov Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706915CD5EC; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:39:34 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: by webmail1.lanl.gov (Postfix, from userid 48) id 048F01DE0210; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:39:33 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from 130.55.118.19 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:39:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911301923.nAUJNIBg015886@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.7.lanl7 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-11-30_13:2009-11-16, 2009-11-30, 2009-11-30 signatures=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117990 gmane.emacs.help:70273 Archived-At: > > > Why? > > > TAB does `indent-region' just fine > > > > Only with Transient Mark Mode. > > i.e. by default. Well, either `indent-region' is important enough, even in the presence of TAB/TMM, to get a keybinding (currently C-M-\), in which case it's worthwhile to consider whether certain keyboards have difficulty generating that event, or it's not, in which case we can just get rid of the keybinding altogether now that TMM is the default and have one more available for user customization (for those users on whose keyboards it is a convenient chord). Saying "it's a bad keybinding but we really don't want it anyway" strikes me as nonsensical. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.