From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-x send-emacs-patch Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 16:09:14 -0400 Message-ID: <572CF9EA.4030303@gmail.com> References: <87pot2zoy0.fsf@gnus.org> <874macho0m.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87oa8kzne5.fsf@gnus.org> <572BAE77.4080105@gmail.com> <572BB50C.5050406@gmail.com> <572BBD30.9070001@gmail.com> <572BBFA1.6010306@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KXnmfWuEpRcbxergGanvlrCR90JIxiAM8" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462565427 11794 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2016 20:10:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 20:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Richard Copley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 22:10:18 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aym4k-0003D3-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 22:10:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60081 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aym4h-0002la-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 16:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aym4Y-0002Wj-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 16:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aym4M-0003bF-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 16:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:61969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aym4M-0003UC-BL; Fri, 06 May 2016 16:09:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [128.30.9.127] ([128.30.9.127]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFcKD-1atV850bZd-00EcZU; Fri, 06 May 2016 22:09:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Ei5ATnheEqwaL+axy98arzZktR4awpBW9FF8O14NvouPrc5c78E vThOPvZoaIQrsNiJHFpq769UzcncX8sA0q5w3tLP7dcfui7biK+mWx+dXfYD/bZ3NIpGdEX xIYahvsyjbfp4pYes6Zgm+9mP2wSs0ia45vbQC0f7xRl/VfarcZSpLGgIc442+afI56taJ0 lvWzYfWXVUEYGb0WNQVEw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:n5mbyAJ1ldo=:/UIV2/DNWlK/zXSpvq+5op q9zxtop6WCSf4XTjlWpYCKgzUaWjcrnMFlEHRvVyXYa7x9X4XaZqdqyppY4qx1541KJ2SnA3o +UTWQ7FZ6Na3xCn6SGmT2p7bpz7Xl7pVbSMlwlzZm5IAYQj6VI7fuU42LoSPBQkNLD6h684EK jT2GFwLPcM3tlfFqoaVB37VUUXNbQyCpZXLSYetuq/pyaTQmnh2u7MFnFDZBuiCUbeWqoE9Nr eeO1Wn8Rw9WDYyMQi5km0Lj9DHj46ZmnDimvSFkPD9qy/chXbBlC89f0IZOecsbRDU+7sAjEP 5jEnVv7yVnnAC+ye51zUhgA8QVWRY7vKELcj99Z9/ZhlAlZXsWzGqssaS7t0u/JLJvDRDomhr voFrVvDJiB3LImhQlJozh9OpGgpGot0itvy4PDuOR68P1rFJyVzguIiiyqJUDDvW+LvSzAxtx F3D8f0Eerf10a2zX39V6YXYA/N2BFz424edqs698V19kF5TgrMp8+06Xsb2mLHCS40EY3oV7p CsjPH9FkO8F8vRjOCSHeAJXLWQYp7OY5SdbfJPnWfNsrvMC2pZ2EKpKY/h2LGHNqYdVjhaNYC xprrd6C7Q+fFUUjp9wmcEv/H7M3D2/dCkIqgFTwc5vNhh6Tm8LZf3fcNduJRfytK3GRzpsA+r wYC6WMchiPNyDM/B2llGzDjUPtc+78yansEF12x3dBS1qtu//TJlIVlpTo4LUcIOpYPU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203660 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KXnmfWuEpRcbxergGanvlrCR90JIxiAM8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="kLhL4ItUfHgaq0IovA4k5smfLSIe4xRno" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: rms@gnu.org, Richard Copley Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru Message-ID: <572CF9EA.4030303@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M-x send-emacs-patch References: <87pot2zoy0.fsf@gnus.org> <874macho0m.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87oa8kzne5.fsf@gnus.org> <572BAE77.4080105@gmail.com> <572BB50C.5050406@gmail.com> <572BBD30.9070001@gmail.com> <572BBFA1.6010306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: --kLhL4ItUfHgaq0IovA4k5smfLSIe4xRno Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-05-06 15:18, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > I'm not sure. The language there is in terms of whole programs, not= > > patches, so it doesn't apply here without some interpretation. >=20 > That is correct. Reading this again, I find the interpretation straightforward, actually. = Here's the whole passage: > This means that if you want to contribute software to GNU, you have= to > do something to give us legal permission to use it. There are thre= e > ways this can be done: > > * Assign the copyright to the Free Software Foundation. > This allows the FSF to act to stop violations of the GPL. > > * Keep the copyright and release the program yourself under the GNU= > GPL. (This alternative is too impractical for contributions to a > preexisting FSF-copyrighted GNU program.) > > * Put the code in the public domain. Then there is nothing to stop= > hoarding of modified versions, but we can still use the program in = GNU. The second point explicitly mentions contributions to preexisting program= s. But in any case, I think we're waiting for a confirmation or rebuttal from ac= tual members of the Emacs project here: will the Emacs project accept non-cruc= ial patches placed in the public domain, without paperwork? To me, the following pass= age suggests that it should; however, it would be nice to have confirmation: > If you put the program in the public domain, we prefer to have a si= gned > piece of paper--a disclaimer of rights--from you confirming this. = If the > program is not very important, we can do without one; the worst tha= t could > happen is that we might some day be forced to stop using it. 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