From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven Bosscher" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gcc.fortran,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs and GFortran Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:06:33 +0100 Message-ID: <571f6b510611022306y280cabb5ma6bbc408ba4996c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061102190005.GA6116@meiner.onlinehome.de> <200611030143.30545.steven.bosscher@gmail.com> <20061103010817.EA39144018@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162537607 29187 80.91.229.2 (3 Nov 2006 07:06:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fortran@gcc.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, Thomas.Koenig@online.de, wt@atmos.colostate.edu, sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: fortran-return-15433-gcgf-fortran=m.gmane.org@gcc.gnu.org Fri Nov 03 08:06:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcgf-fortran@gmane.org Original-Received: from sourceware.org ([209.132.176.174]) by ciao.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gft8W-0000oO-AW for gcgf-fortran@gmane.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:06:44 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 19849 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2006 07:06:41 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19794 invoked by uid 22791); 3 Nov 2006 07:06:40 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DK_SIGNED,SARE_MSGID_LONG40,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.187) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:06:36 +0000 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a25so40355nfc for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:06:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Tqz3JoOT8Qjo+G6LoGdQETprGoczOBhQvCxr/y1eQSFhoXOROTxf2YpFQTrVeQ2QYz2Lxr/TCIDfBbMwH+O/pskBEVy/DLqraoqbTdLT6AhN80srd56n31yO7zdXKDVoGfBGRrIPBdcdflXzZzNTWJL3HcWjxlVRX8ohAEXsE80= Original-Received: by 10.82.109.19 with SMTP id h19mr647473buc.1162537593577; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:06:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.82.107.1 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:06:33 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ams@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20061103010817.EA39144018@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> Content-Disposition: inline Mailing-List: contact fortran-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Original-Sender: fortran-owner@gcc.gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.gcc.fortran:15403 gmane.emacs.devel:61660 Archived-At: On 11/3/06, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > I really do not wish to partake in this anymore, but I cannot let this > slide. > > Should gfortran conform to the GNU standards? Preferably yes. But > if no developer (volunteer!) cares to make it so, tough luck but it > is not going to happen. > > I volunteered. Yes, and that's really sweet of you. > And now you are calling me of all people hostile and > on top of that ignorant? No, I call you "not listening"... You've been told many times now that the patches you posted are just wrong. But you still insist that you've posted the solution and that everyone should just ignore the fact that you: a) did not test the patch b) did not understand the parts of the compiler you're changing > The fix in question is so trivial that it > takes more time to read your message than actually fixing it! See? Not listening. > Steve > Kargl might have not been very cooperative, > It is no wonder > why gfortran has so few volunteer when they try to chase away anyone > who tries to contribute anything to the project. *laughs* I don't know what project you're looking at, but it seems to me that gfortran no problem at all to attract developers. Granted, discussions like this one don't help. But there are, I don't know, 12? 15? active gfortran developers, and that's more than any other front end. If you want to make a point, don't use such rediculous arguments. Gr. Steven