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boundary="UuK1lX7X74IXcTuDcE1jPNFOSBcwCKc1t" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 23341@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <571CDB86.2070303@live.com> Subject: Re: bug#23341: x-show-tip does not respect the value of tooltip-hide-delay, and the default tooltip timeout isn't configurable References: <571AE240.2090103@live.com> <83eg9w6cjl.fsf@gnu.org> <571B8511.9050207@live.com> <83y4844cjs.fsf@gnu.org> <571B9441.4070403@live.com> <83wpno43da.fsf@gnu.org> <571BF829.8000000@live.com> <83potf4jzu.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83potf4jzu.fsf@gnu.org> --UuK1lX7X74IXcTuDcE1jPNFOSBcwCKc1t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-04-24 02:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: 23341@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel >> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:33:13 -0400 >> >> As a user, I would like to have a way to globally configure how long t= ooltips produced by Emacs are displayed. >> At the moment, Emacs does not provide such a default. tooltip-hide-del= ay is close, but it does not cover all tooltips. >> >> As a user, I don't like it to have to customize every package that use= tooltips to just to ensure a consistent default. >=20 > I understand, thanks. But to me, such a global value makes very > little sense, because tooltips can be used for many different features > that don't necessary display short helpful text. Having a single > value for all the possible use cases is IMO not a good customization > design, as it can never be a "one fits all" value anyway. In that case, I don't understand why we have tooltip-hide-delay as a cust= omizable variable, nor why the hide delay is an optional argument to x-sh= ow-tip. But in any case, I don't think wasting Martin's or your time further is w= arranted; I don't want to distract the two of you from other more valuabl= e implementation tasks, so I'll abandon this suggestion. 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