From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:26:00 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <57068A18.40207@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87oa9otixb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5703E15B.7080601@cs.ucla.edu> <87k2kcovt8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5704233B.4020103@cs.ucla.edu> <8737qzso88.fsf@russet.org.uk> <57045765.4000309@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3ei8vz9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5705B246.10201@cs.ucla.edu> <5706764D.2010708@cs.ucla.edu> <282e74a937853505fddfea446c9bc46e.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <57067BF6.6000700@cs.ucla.edu> <4355cfa8cbbd947770537a9006732db0.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460046445 18370 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2016 16:27:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20202@debbugs.gnu.org, 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 18:27:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aoClz-0005mt-UQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E0F016124A; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 In-Reply-To: <4355cfa8cbbd947770537a9006732db0.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116165 Archived-At: On 04/07/2016 09:07 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Well, I need to scope this. If the issue is tcsh and bash, then I will > look at both. I cannot, of course, look at any arbitrary program which > might be affected. I think we'd be OK if we work with the "common" shells. But that would include zsh, whose current FAQ says the following: Probably the most reliable way of dealing with this is to look for the environment variable `$EMACS', which is set to `t' in Emacs' shell mode. Putting [[ $EMACS = t ]] && unsetopt zle in your .zshrc should be sufficient. So here it's not merely a matter of fixing zsh, it's also fixing all the users' .zshrc files that are following this (obsolescent) advice. So far we've looked at three shells (bash, tcsh, zsh), and found compatibility issues with all three. This is not a good sign.