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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202762 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PhlBMAV8nVe61R2t8mqSjEUSlLAt6780a Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="H0qwRfUSfPDXji96e8dHCV2NVakXWLIe6" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: rms@gnu.org Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <5704AEAF.8050205@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Should the default value of url-user-agent include a version number? What about the specific case of package.el? References: <56F42269.10400@gmail.com> <05663DCE-3E5B-41E2-8657-460B2D013B49@lunaryorn.com> <570280D9.6030706@gmail.com> <5703D7BA.4070507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: --H0qwRfUSfPDXji96e8dHCV2NVakXWLIe6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/06/2016 12:56 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > I meant IceCat. It sends its precise version, and it reveals that I= 'm using Firefox.=20 >=20 > Are you sure? I don't think so. I think that string is entirely made = up. > That is what Ruben told me. I was wrong to say precise version; it seems that it sends its major vers= ion only :)=20 Icecat 31 sends this: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0 Icecat 38 sends this: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 Additionally, IceCat of course leaks the fact that you're using LibreJS, = which probably goes a long way towards identifying IceCat. I wonder if pr= ofiling the list of websites that SpyBlock is blocking would give further= information. If that's not enough, differences in behaviour between succ= essive versions of LibreJs can probably help in pinpointing a precise ver= sion. 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