From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <56b1c4e4-4e7e-4a02-accb-3fb830f3a016@default> References: <> <<87fv77barj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zj5fgpd8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83h9rnp0yy.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87r3qnl70z.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <837fsfm7gq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj5bkrqw.fsf@gnu.org>> <<83y4kvkrf5.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431364399 22448 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2015 17:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:13:19 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 19:13:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrGM-0000q4-NG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:13:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38862 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrGM-0001zf-3U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrGB-0001zZ-WE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrG8-0005sR-6S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:12:55 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33086) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrG4-0005rL-33; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:12:48 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t4BHClpZ024661 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 May 2015 17:12:47 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4BHCkeJ003691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 11 May 2015 17:12:46 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4BHCk2d030748; Mon, 11 May 2015 17:12:46 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83y4kvkrf5.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104393 Archived-At: > Btw, it could just be that the "someone intrigued" use case could be > better served by a separate document, also reachable from Help. It > is, after all, quite a different goal -- to "sell" Emacs to > newcomers, rather than teach them to use it. Precisely. That is not the aim of a tutorial. But that doesn't mean that it is not helpful for potential new users.