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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66: Implement buffer-widen-limits functionality
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:02:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56F293E7.2000703@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fgtpfrw.fsf@gmail.com>



On 23.03.2016 12:58, Vitalie Spinu wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 23 2016 08:16, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>> preventing unwanted widen instead seems the way to go.
> That's precisely what extra limit do. Prevent unwanted widen. How do you propose
> to implement that?
>
> I see 4 ways to go about it:
>
>    1) Add an extra prog-widen and teach all modes out there to use it in contexts
>       like syntax-parsing, indentation, font-lock and who know what else. A half
>       backed version of this in already part of emacs.
>
>    2) Have low level restrictions directly in `widen` and a macro
>       `with-widen-limit` that multi-modes can use. This is the current patch.
>
>    3) Have two types of narrowing (soft and hard). This is harder to implement
>       but has the benefit that it can be used in non-transient situations like
>       Info mode.
>
>    4) Bring widen to elisp and allow minor modes (and Info mode) advice widen in
>       whatever way they see.
>
> I think (1) is a bad idea. (4) is simplest and very general. (3) might be useful
> but it's hard. (2) is implemented to get rid of (1).
>
> I proposed (4) very early in the thread, but didn't hear much support for
> it. There are only three trivial usages of Fwiden in C code. Bringing `narrow`
> to elisp is equally easy.
>
>    Vitalie

Hi Vitali,

may you point me to spot/bug where widen goes wrong?

Thanks,

Andreas



  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-23 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <E1aiC0q-0004DL-40@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-03-22 12:08   ` [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66: Implement buffer-widen-limits functionality Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 19:44     ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-22 19:56       ` Drew Adams
2016-03-22 22:42         ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23  0:44           ` Drew Adams
2016-03-23  7:16             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-23 11:58               ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 13:02                 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2016-03-23 14:17                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 17:24                       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-23 17:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 18:53                           ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-23 21:57                             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-23 22:13                               ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 23:03                                 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-24  3:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-24 12:24                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 15:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-24 18:55                                       ` Removing prog-indentation-context (was: [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66: Implement buffer-widen-limits functionality) Stefan Monnier
2016-03-25  0:53                                         ` Removing prog-indentation-context Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-25  1:29                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-25  2:09                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-25 11:38                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-26 22:29                                               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-28  1:03                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-25 15:45                                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-28 21:37                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-28 22:08                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-28 22:55                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-28 23:24                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-28  1:03                                       ` [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66: Implement buffer-widen-limits functionality Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24  3:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 17:14                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-24  0:03                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-24  0:37                         ` Drew Adams
2016-03-24  2:36                           ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-24 13:53                             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-24 13:57                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 14:31                                 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-24 14:56                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24 15:13                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-03-24 15:20                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24  7:00                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-23 14:29                 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-23 21:16                 ` A vision for multiple major modes [was: Re: [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66:] Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-23 21:58                   ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-24 17:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-24 20:43                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-23 22:34                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 18:38                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-24 20:22                       ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-25  0:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 12:09                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-27 22:59                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-29  0:07                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-04-01  1:15                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-05 16:29                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-04-05 22:52                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-18 21:32                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-28 13:00                       ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-03-25 18:20                   ` Phillip Lord
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2016-03-24 14:41                                 ` [Emacs-diffs] widen-limits c331b66: Implement buffer-widen-limits functionality Drew Adams
2016-03-24 16:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-03-24 16:24                                     ` Drew Adams

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