From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jaakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13949: 24.4.1; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:42:11 +0100 Message-ID: <56F19203.5040501@ro.ru> References: <56F12360.5030301@ro.ru> <83y49a4hga.fsf@gnu.org> <56F1837D.4060300@ro.ru> <83io0e4b5r.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458672205 514 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2016 18:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 22 19:43:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGq-0005iR-G6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:43:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGq-0007IK-1i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGk-0007Fn-TQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:43:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGf-0006AP-Ul for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:35008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGf-0006AL-R3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRGf-0005Ty-MI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jaakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13949 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13949-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13949.145867213421005 (code B ref 13949); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13949) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2016 18:42:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRFu-0005Sj-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from huan1.mail.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.27]:22058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRFt-0005Sb-0Y for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:42:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ro.ru; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:Subject; bh=p8njoCtJdmxT8GTDBnqM/OUSoHQPFM5BAB5Dswfrilk=; b=KKJgndp/kJN/qy8HAjhxsIK2bj9utZNuTVmNiS6lxMJbu0MD2jPeHvrThRvYbHibEayjc0gSVLcFR3q0ySxRfHNSp3bacIP4yjxl5cpb+ZiwtAVnu5shAPlSqno0yn5fJQbphFds0hFgBjni2yCzw4RmUFTkFawgz9gHHCRYcH8=; Original-Received: from [UNAVAILABLE] ([131.159.50.38]:16981) by huan1.mail.rambler.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1aiRFr-0003pg-L2 for 13949@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:42:11 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 In-Reply-To: <83io0e4b5r.fsf@gnu.org> X-Rambler-User: j_k_v@ro.ru/131.159.50.38 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115349 Archived-At: On 03/22/2016 07:31 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: 13949@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jaakov >> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:40:13 +0100 >> >>> I disagree. I think Dani is right: the buffer text is changed (at >>> least twice), which turns on the modified flag. This situation is >>> equivalent to inserting a character and then deleting it: the buffer >>> stays modified, although its text is identical to the original one. >>> >> Objection for the following reason: >> - It's a human who types in and deletes a charter. >> - fill-paragraph is not a human, but a routine. > > We obviously disagree. I don't consider the previous argument for disagreement valid for the mentioned reasons.