From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Semrau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visit New File menu item Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:38:47 +0100 Message-ID: <56E5CFD7.2050909@openmailbox.org> References: <87oaaldk94.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87r3fhoslg.fsf@fastmail.fm> <5bbe5c17ea420ab05bb8b71d0305e7d1.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83shzvf3ha.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2l6fjq0.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb4qup6z.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457903726 22259 80.91.229.3 (13 Mar 2016 21:15:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 13 22:15:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1afDM4-0003CX-2v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:15:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37710 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afDM3-0004VK-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afDLz-0004VF-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afDLw-0000na-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp1.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.35]:37785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afDLv-0000mP-Gq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9072ACB31D; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:39:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1457901543; bh=0Txopuvo91Q7Q4cbHtONauy7Rvq+sqxkqznunirDFPk=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YkIiOU1kAuGAmIOxDDA3J/oMp0uObgMOg7X7aJA5/CGhcwdjYJl932o10xSjoBQA9 DFR9c7d4kx9t9wg0Nd/mozsgmGvSx5vttGdOI9w5eOShcEVIl+xmplGU+f35VIfkfY mpP2xYsqmJKfsmM/1iVDstBvv0p/8Ru8sII3YMhs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1457901533; bh=0Txopuvo91Q7Q4cbHtONauy7Rvq+sqxkqznunirDFPk=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=njdj1E+Xa+qt3U01FwLfN3aM0HUCywFy4ngcTFwlvyFpmXwlMM4hl/24cnA5tPthW LaxOK7MYL5VOw/sa1DsDwMJtaTIbJCUOsqiK04KLsMXimVYQ8pg1+S1QLWfK6VmLdK jzEK6AmFBVIOsDg7abICyXcj9cuVz3B/J87WWkf0= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: <87vb4qup6z.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 62.4.1.35 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201647 Archived-At: On 13.03.2016 20:56, Phillip Lord wrote: > John Wiegley writes: > >>>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> You make excellent points, Eli. >> >> Phillip, I'm sorry to give you the go ahead and then turn it around, but I >> can't ignore Eli's wise counsel on this point. >> >> Can one of you please revert this for emacs-25? (I'm traveling at the moment). >> After, let's discuss which menu options we might want to change and why, so >> that others have more of a chance to chime in. Although there was a mini- >> consensus on "New File", maybe we didn't give it enough time. > > > I am happy to do a broad overview of the menu items if you wish, for > either Emacs 25.1 or 26. There are some other oddities that leap to mind > some which probably can't be fixed (window and frame manipulation inder > "file") but also some that can (some of "Options" are selected by > default, and "Highlight Region" can probably go, for starters). > > I wonder if we need some way of writing an "RFC" -- I would rather write > a document about this, take and incorporate comments, then implement > from the document, rather than discuss it here, then try to remember > what everyone said, or stitch it together from the mailing list > archives. > > Perhaps some org-files in an orphan branch in the repo? > > Phil > John recentely introduced a collection point for such plans and proposals in the wiki: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Proposals