From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:08 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <56E2248C.4040608@cs.ucla.edu> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87fuw090k7.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83y49spuxt.fsf@gnu.org> <87pov4achc.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <83r3fkpb3u.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh5rps0t.fsf@gnu.org> <56E066BD.5050403@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457661097 31882 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2016 01:51:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 01:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 11 02:51:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aeCEf-0005yj-PJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:51:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeCEc-00020f-28 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:51:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeCEY-00020N-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeCEX-0006jN-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:51:18 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:57243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeCER-0006gB-Oh; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:51:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198A2160D55; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Uc1ihXo5nAKh; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F1A160F70; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jkCy3oESNSt3; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAE73160D55; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:51:08 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201441 Archived-At: On 03/10/2016 01:23 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Maintaining a ChangeLog file in the repository is one way to do this, > but if it has flaws in the case of merging, can we design another mechanism > for the job that solves the problems with merging? Yes, one such approach (used by coreutils) was proposed a couple of days ago, in the patch archived here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-03/msg00391.html Eli dislikes the way this supports patching old commit messages, and has proposed to instead use 'git replace'; we'd still use the abovementioned patch, but would patch old commit messages in a different way. We haven't yet tested this suggestion.