From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make display-time-mode time zone configurable
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:27:09 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56CA9C2D.50504@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222004556.GA5187@holos>
Mark Oteiza wrote:
> On 19/02/16 at 10:02am, Paul Eggert wrote:
>> >On 02/19/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Oteiza wrote:
>>> > >My first thought of a use-case is simply keeping time zone in the mode
>>> > >line the same regardless of what the system time (or local time) may be,
>>> > >akin to not changing one's watch when travelling.
>> >
>> >That's easily done with (setenv "TZ" "America/Los_Angeles"), or whatever you
>> >want the mode-line's time zone to be.
> Sure, if you want to globally change the time zone in emacs and all the
> subprocesses it spawns,
Which is the normal case. Users who want to affect Emacs but not subprocesses
can call set-time-zone-rule instead of setenv. Admittedly we steer users away
from that sort of thing, as it leads to confusion.
> which is counter to the purpose of the defcustom
> in the first place--to expose convenient fine control of the displayed
> time zone in display-time-mode.
I'm afraid we're starting to go in circles. I'm curious about why one would want
to change just the mode-line's time zone, and you're responding that it's
because one would want to change just the mode-line's time zone. :-)
We needn't add a control knob for every Emacs behavior, only behaviors for which
the benefit in fine-grained control outweighs the cost in confusion and
complexity. The cost/benefit tradeoff for this will differ among users. Expert
users who need this sort of fine-grained control already have it; as far as I
can see, nonexpert users don't need it enough to justify its complexity.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-22 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-15 22:02 [PATCH] Make display-time-mode time zone configurable Mark Oteiza
2016-02-16 4:45 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-16 14:33 ` W. Greenhouse
2016-02-16 17:11 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-19 2:32 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-19 2:37 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-19 4:57 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-19 17:14 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-19 18:02 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-22 0:45 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-22 5:27 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2016-03-03 0:39 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-03-04 0:24 ` Paul Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-03-04 22:25 Mark Oteiza
2016-03-05 1:35 ` Paul Eggert
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