From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: <56C3795C.8080500@cornell.edu> References: <87mvr9wxqz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87io1xwq1e.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87vb5wvzfz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87io1wt4cc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737syoima.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871t8iu277.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87y4apfpr6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87wpq9qwia.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2m7qse0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <878u2mqhnl.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455651104 27239 80.91.229.3 (16 Feb 2016 19:31:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=c3=93scar_Fuentes?= , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: =?UTF-8?Q?Per_Starb=c3=a4ck?= , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 16 20:31:36 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aVlLH-0005Vi-GX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:31:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50001 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVlLG-0007bf-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:31:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVlL3-0007b1-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVlKz-0006ze-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from limerock04.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.244]:40442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVlKz-0006uX-15; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:31:05 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Original-Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite3.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.8]) by limerock04.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u1GJUxwR022756; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.7] (cpe-67-249-176-138.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.176.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u1GJUwlI009127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:30:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 In-Reply-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by limerock04.mail.cornell.edu id u1GJUxwR022756 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 128.84.13.244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200050 Archived-At: On 2/16/2016 9:30 AM, Per Starb=C3=A4ck wrote: > ### Searching for "n" and finding "=C3=B1" in Spanish, or searching f= or > "a" and finding "=C3=A4" in Swedish > ### are just as strange as searching for "i" and finding "j" in Engli= sh. > > It's as if many people on this list just won't believe that statement, > which is very frustrating. I've been following this discussion, and I haven't seen any indication=20 that people don't believe that statement. What I have seen is=20 disagreement about its importance. I've also seen several people say=20 that we should wait for more feedback from pretesters before deciding=20 what the default should be. What's the harm in that? Ken