From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tags-loop-continue
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 19:14:14 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56928356.2000609@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bn8tmnvq.fsf@gnu.org>
On 01/10/2016 06:54 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I think you've just heard from someone who evidently does use them:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00627.html
But not with default key bindings. I'd classify Ingo's message as an
evidence that we're allowed not to care too much about the default binding.
>> C-, is too nice a key binding to spend on them.
>
> You mean 'M-,', I presume.
Yes, sorry.
>> If we want to retain some global binding for tags-loop-continue, let's move it to C-*.
>
> I'm afraid it won't go down well with the users of those commands.
None of the early adopters complained thus far.
In any case, we're changing a lot of things already. The most
curmudgeonly users will have a lot to complain about anyway.
> Besides, 'C-*' is not available on TTYs.
And here, I meant 'M-*'. The binding formerly used by pop-tag-mark.
> I asked "how", not "where". This command (tags-loop-continue) existed
> before and had a keybinding; it will also exist in Emacs 25.1 -- how
> do we explain that it now has a different keybinding, or no keybinding
> at all? What good reasons do we give for such a backward-incompatible
> change in a veteran command?
The command won't change--only its bindings. Because we expect it to be
used considerably less often from now on.
>> Other than that, what technical solution is used to keep the command
>> and its keybinding available is unimportant, I think.
>>
>> It doesn't seem like tags-search uses any special keymap during its execution.
>
> I didn't talk about tags-search, I'm talking only about
> tags-loop-continue.
Because tags-query-replace uses a special keymap, we can bind
tags-loop-continue to M-, in it. _Maybe_ we can similarly use a new
keymap during tags-search's execution.
If you think it's a good idea, I can look into it.
On the flip side, the users may get confused that M-, is bound to
different commands in different contexts.
> I think it should remain an interactive command
> (so it could be easily rebound and invoked by name), and it should be
> bound to 'M-,' as it was before.
I will stick out like a sore thumb, being entirely useless with the xref
interface, and only serving the more obscure use cases.
Let's not take up the handy key combination just for that.
> We will need to find a new binding
> for xref-query-replace, which is unfortunate, but I don't see a better
> way forward.
Apparently you mean xref-pop-marker-stack. See the two proposed ways
forward described above (use M-*, or only set up the M-, binding during
tags-search and tags-query-replace).
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-09 19:36 tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-09 19:59 ` tags-loop-continue Ingo Lohmar
2016-01-09 20:22 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-09 20:42 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-09 20:49 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-09 20:52 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-09 21:19 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 3:45 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 4:00 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 6:29 ` tags-loop-continue Drew Adams
2016-01-10 14:35 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 15:26 ` tags-loop-continue Ingo Lohmar
2016-01-10 16:09 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 16:08 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 16:18 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 17:53 ` tags-loop-continue Drew Adams
2016-01-10 18:12 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-11 7:21 ` tags-loop-continue Eric Abrahamsen
2016-01-10 15:54 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 16:14 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2016-01-10 17:08 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 18:19 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 19:01 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 0:41 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 16:00 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 16:07 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 17:17 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 17:26 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 17:39 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 18:36 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 18:46 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 18:31 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 18:44 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 19:02 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 19:15 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 19:18 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 19:41 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 20:09 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-14 20:21 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 19:19 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-20 11:19 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 4:59 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 17:02 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 17:12 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 17:47 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 18:58 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 19:02 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 19:11 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 19:56 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 20:15 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 20:36 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 21:17 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 21:26 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 6:59 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 10:13 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 14:08 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 17:51 ` tags-loop-continue John Wiegley
2016-01-22 18:35 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 1:26 ` next-error-function integration in xref removed Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-26 17:34 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 1:54 ` tags-loop-continue John Wiegley
2016-01-22 2:00 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 5:34 ` tags-loop-continue John Wiegley
2016-01-21 5:15 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 17:07 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-24 2:19 ` xref and displaying locations in appropriate window or frame Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 10:55 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-24 13:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 14:38 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-24 14:53 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-24 17:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 18:12 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-24 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-25 9:50 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-25 17:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-25 18:18 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-25 19:28 ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-01-26 10:05 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-26 23:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 9:10 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-27 17:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 18:08 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-27 18:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 22:45 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-27 23:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-28 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-28 15:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-29 0:05 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-29 7:27 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-29 23:36 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-29 1:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-29 7:27 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-29 13:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-29 23:40 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-25 22:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-26 10:05 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-27 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 9:10 ` martin rudalics
2016-01-27 18:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-24 17:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-24 18:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-21 0:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-21 23:49 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 17:20 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-17 23:12 ` tags-loop-continue Stefan Monnier
2016-01-18 1:37 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-18 2:20 ` tags-loop-continue Stefan Monnier
2016-01-18 2:28 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-18 2:48 ` tags-loop-continue Stefan Monnier
2016-01-18 2:57 ` tags-loop-continue Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-18 15:46 ` tags-loop-continue Eli Zaretskii
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