From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Discussions that led to changes in the defaults, was: lax matching is not a great default behavior Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 05:54:15 +0200 Message-ID: <565D19E7.9020000@yandex.ru> References: <837fl2qzs2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448942091 9933 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2015 03:54:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 03:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 04:54:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a3c1V-0003Y1-4M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 04:54:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44563 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3c1U-0007qS-Kn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3c1H-0007nz-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:54:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3c1D-0002kv-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]:34425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3c1C-0002kW-Vs; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:54:19 -0500 Original-Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so187273906wmv.1; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:54:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3UzFZSjkazofdXOMRGnT0vF7QEIqqN1LZ/PzyiMorio=; b=bXhTmzJRi41c/UTlQ+onsaxLvoFvcJrgx+sPhJy1K43NM/aRUMzbxwbxcF4BibMCjs bnGa4ZRWWl7nG5Me3Cgei8Y/1kjSvfYgdFmBdwx6gyLPApzKDKW2PGvx95WuN3Zgrnx6 hox/R2DnBosUETpqyvaWABWuGDW9x8xSoBz1mBTslDHM1HU8iSUCDA1am6ptx/8cq4rN us7uay6/0cNr0LudDHM1YY0y5ol+Sr/RiwA32U4qE5xCkIJI86REjM8qVxYIIdKkCp9b GFhGsP19xR5/jAOf5uqUyr0H3IdkEu9ZDS5hwhdLApmgi/sfYsVs3kRDUivqBYMgYVYG JLzw== X-Received: by 10.28.3.133 with SMTP id 127mr34314617wmd.101.1448942058078; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:54:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q6sm49369037wjx.28.2015.11.30.19.54.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:54:17 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/42.0 In-Reply-To: <837fl2qzs2.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195654 Archived-At: On 11/28/2015 10:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > In all the years I've been > involved in Emacs development, I remember only one case of such a > discussion that ended up in real changes: the changes in default > colors of faces in Emacs 21. But that was when the development team > was very small and everyone on it had the same perspective. (It still > took a lot of time and argument.) http://debbugs.gnu.org/20290 comes to mind, and I'm very happy with it.