From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: It's almost 2016 and when (single-threaded) Emacs hangs, you gotta be smashing your keyboard! Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 00:18:34 +0200 Message-ID: <564E4ABA.4040709@yandex.ru> References: <564E3E63.1010003@yandex.ru> <87lh9tk6ll.fsf@fastmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447971543 27440 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2015 22:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:19:03 +0000 (UTC) To: Random832 , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 23:18:58 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXXd-0002X5-Vy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:18:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44284 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXXd-0002dn-63 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:18:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48913) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXXN-0002Yn-9X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:18:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXXK-0004N5-4I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:18:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]:38075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzXXJ-0004My-U3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:18:38 -0500 Original-Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so137440047wme.1 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:18:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eIECb6/rR7wWXmAJWYh16nCtJDg7htSLz52E5Zf5kLw=; b=NqXrYEO52iCozAR714hy6Kq32EmTTtA+UGs66RJ13xIg9k2/QGNZ1P/u5viMU4DbI1 ixv8L26qJ6Cb83/uJcC4LvYtjwfMap/HghdKmmhAsJNlXMSZjYeR1jI16wG7wHGsGoHO u0WS+2nc0hgNbRddGIC8jMgBE+yPQ88AOa1f6Cwv2sV9VNnsLJjmiBiCZSYQAgnnR7XH tGnch0zc8MSuuJiKj2SNNocDcmkN1r1zdqn8XKCBdkdKnQm0Zn2slm6OVGo4Q34IVccL iQXPmKJKQL3VRZnVVfk5GSet0uPjqn1znuhkMjiDSj5DUFsNngFk9SkfQW8nWPz0j2if EHJw== X-Received: by 10.28.47.212 with SMTP id v203mr124988wmv.37.1447971517316; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:18:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v192sm36109524wmv.5.2015.11.19.14.18.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:18:36 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/42.0 In-Reply-To: <87lh9tk6ll.fsf@fastmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::233 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108153 Archived-At: On 11/19/2015 11:43 PM, Random832 wrote: > Why would it take 100% CPU? We're talking about an I/O wait. I took that from your description. Maybe not 100%, all right, then just a dead thread. Also not stellar user experience. Emacs can work fine with slow external processes; we interact with them asynchronously. If Dired doesn't (I'm not sure), that could be fixed.