From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: beginning-of-defun (again)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:55:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5634E45F.8000703@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pozv2pl8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 31.10.2015 13:24, David Kastrup wrote:
> Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:
>
>> On 31.10.2015 00:14, Richard Stallman wrote:
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>>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
>>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>>>
>>> > With emacs -Q, C-M-a from behind example below, stops at "(bar)",
>>> > missing the beginning of function.
>>>
>>> > (defun foo ()
>>> > (insert "
>>> > (bar)"))
>>>
>>> Our convention is that you should write it this way:
>>>
>>> (defun foo ()
>>> (insert "
>>> \(bar)"))
>>>
>> A convention which probably predates Aristoteles :)
>> Working-by-convention is rather a social thing...
>>
>> That design was a real nuisance when generating and writing functions
>> on the fly.
>> Sure, it's possible to live with it. But why not remove that
>> constraint, if possible?
> Because reparsing every file from its beginning in order to indent the
> current line is too expensive for large files?
>
Delivered some benchmark showing a reliable solution must not be slower.
> The meaning of every Lisp file can be changed by putting
>
> (setq everything "
>
> at its beginning. There really is no correct way to determine current
> state apart from parsing from the start. So we have a convention for an
> "incorrect way" of avoiding parsing from the start.
>
With the side-effect of creating a certain number of bugs - which are
already inside, but not reported, because "configure..." would be the
answer.
The current buggy behavior detects beginning-of-defun inside a string -
which is not to cure by conventions.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-31 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-29 11:24 beginning-of-defun (again) Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 11:52 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 12:03 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 13:07 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 13:28 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 13:47 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 17:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 12:11 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 12:16 ` Kaushal Modi
2015-10-29 17:56 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 1:35 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 2:20 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 9:29 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-30 18:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 23:13 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 23:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-30 23:34 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-01 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-29 12:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-29 12:56 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 13:31 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 14:46 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 14:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 14:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-30 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 6:47 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-30 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-31 8:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-31 12:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-31 15:55 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2015-11-01 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
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