From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: beginning-of-defun (again) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:01:37 +0100 Message-ID: <56347561.2010900@online.de> References: <56320200.4050503@online.de> <56331269.1040804@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446278497 13606 80.91.229.3 (31 Oct 2015 08:01:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 31 09:01:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsR6P-0000AE-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:01:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54611 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsR6O-0003RH-Rk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:01:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsR6E-0003R7-I4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsR6B-0003Ia-B9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:54352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsR6B-0003I9-0y; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.31] ([77.3.59.187]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIRr9-1ZuMm03FrL-004DE8; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:01:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IjMLaXsUljPmtCU6D5PJSLJtgQgbjZCWsbBPF8GbCjqApNX80N0 /Yb5lsZmQs/pwmtfjc2aJLx5S4gPNvmtKf1nXrzoJW+VzjJ+Wb54nDjFaePYIUxp9mnClsu 8l+8k1rmuqHsHTfB/Vugcz+k67EQPy7if2W8lBklSjxQEfwvySclMw6KN1Mjwv1oMOKVzTM jnaH2OGYkBEGnlj1BH9/w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:0Vz4ySSDw3Q=:+QF77hqb5z5PDYClfaf8m5 o+lNjDOExv4NJuyWEAbIf54rjMdTclV++j+L4Yslpp+qo7rhv4S/nJiWoCpxv00b9ghg/z4Wa K/wvX2IfK+a/Q6BhTqjyrFKhdXf0UgBAxmSizSwj2JG0rB5M9Nc9HMLN66uzn6CEHjlt+PN/v 9ETbnerRjLX2mUtSzrWA2x3+FRk9zI2n8pWcEEDAH0ASIgJHCQLkbAUtH8VW+3tvyOGZ1uQF7 KqMVfK6xIe5Zv+LoT0Sa/0bBRT58XKDhfOgSoCajTIN6WFUhNF8JN+VOXoZWpLKWqCEawlnJY +SlDSOrOZZBXytkfOl/VhYE2sYCNfrXb64SirVr5ykwmqJZXC5cmhKkHxBhw4AlVmmtQNpUgW VpENlfmuchhMUSIF0oXNthrURpAhh+RbVIIZWhMw8+hwv2lN4DUIBDrHY9IpTFdRNBTgEaL59 4HxAgxGmeTvRk9dvgCggHTrx24oYdL7bm171ODGYZtsjHoBv56dIEslvxsf3FaaSP2YVhI/XF n5hSIw4A2rXTeTvv80lMVkKDQlA+EMZxbD07HG2cTbD4acRZChzKGPIBFCT6odoMJ7FLEl+Vc bsw9Ux4nWOB7v+vsGE26i72Nr5ICCzgJRjG+gOD6JpAfX5hBlnnBUK9duTqsBImWEZUJo2WK1 gCIrMpAshvGk6UmXrD5qa0PPyaFlOweUNiUu9KRigvgvAlsXw83pNAsOo1xSyRB19U3ZQBk6f 0CfgehluecqXeQuk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193004 Archived-At: On 31.10.2015 00:14, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > With emacs -Q, C-M-a from behind example below, stops at "(bar)", > > missing the beginning of function. > > > (defun foo () > > (insert " > > (bar)")) > > Our convention is that you should write it this way: > > (defun foo () > (insert " > \(bar)")) > A convention which probably predates Aristoteles :) Working-by-convention is rather a social thing... That design was a real nuisance when generating and writing functions on the fly. Sure, it's possible to live with it. But why not remove that constraint, if possible?