Re: beginning-of-defun (again)

["Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>]

  On 29.10.2015 12:52, Oleh Krehel wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@online.de>  writes:
>
>> maybe it's time to have a reasonable default-behavior of
>> beginning-of-defun in Emacs Lisp.
> I think it works pretty well as is.
>

Unfortunatly not. When started from inside a string, which has an open 
paren at column 0, the default will stop there.
Try from "bar":

(defun foo ()
   (insert "
(bar)"))

>> open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start
> It's a strange variable that doesn't seem to do anything.  The only
> relevant setting is 0 or non-zero (the default). Setting it to 0 seems
> to do nothing. Maybe someone could explain what it actually does.
>
>> A function resp. top-level-form starts if the beginning of a list is
>> followed by a respective keyword.
>> The list of keywords being customizable seems a plus :)
> There's no reason for a defun to not start on a newline.

Modes should honor the syntax, not impose conventions.

>   And there's
> nothing else that makes "(" be on a new line, except for rare cases

There is a plenty of rare cases, notably when meta-programming, i.e. if 
code is delivered by strings for insertion.

> in
> docstrings, where it can be escaped.  So it seems that the problem is
> already solved in a good way, without having to customize anything.
>
>      Oleh