From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:26:44 +0300 Message-ID: <561BED54.8010602@yandex.ru> References: <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <5618E51D.4070800@yandex.ru> <83twpzrp05.fsf@gnu.org> <5618ED93.8000001@yandex.ru> <83lhbbrnn7.fsf@gnu.org> <56191D6B.8040405@yandex.ru> <838u7assvj.fsf@gnu.org> <5619506B.3050303@gmx.at> <561A382E.6050008@yandex.ru> <561A390E.9020709@gmx.at> <561A3A1D.700@yandex.ru> <878u79ob0m.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5471.4080406@yandex.ru> <87zizpmvhg.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5C64.1090209@yandex.ru> <561B9D3E.3060606@siege-engine.com> <561B9DE9.3040907@yandex.ru> <83a8roozcq.fsf@gnu.org> <561BDE17.4030401@yandex.ru> <83y4f8nhw7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444670834 24570 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 17:27:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 19:27:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlgsO-0002tS-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:27:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlgsN-0001sM-BZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54008) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlgs9-0001ry-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlgs5-00025x-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]:38358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlgs5-00025H-Hc; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: by wieq12 with SMTP id q12so30578998wie.1; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HZocI6xxZLUspWJPygu4ahte2Z8AxToFUMqQBdEtGyg=; b=AvZfOoYKFsqXi/50hSACaODRxVi6Y2qnTxPJYH8fateDsbIcyxYH4c9UZf2MyPalY1 s8M/0PjuWk1tfu2jR2xQ0YlKRE/DBstmyDWk5ozEI+Xov/0q1RzJrx9i7zAnPJkkCDqi mJG3RzfULkEiTh3qaFLS8YExB/3D69nV4ELYAhvb9uH5oHeZbvG5Y+gL4C2PPvaqgbLm CRmbzkHmX+9e+YywIqXn2SJHM5Mv6TA4ssrNzVGxrRl60Q1yxqV1PDtVZGiTdbLpsK17 2aZjwDvJNxpyB7TCGyi7y1EazCI/qyfudY9FYWZzFA9LpaA9Iql6RrMcK53YZXtNyUsw hOcg== X-Received: by 10.180.74.47 with SMTP id q15mr16518176wiv.73.1444670808931; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm11657060wij.9.2015.10.12.10.26.45 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:26:46 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <83y4f8nhw7.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191371 Archived-At: On 10/12/2015 07:58 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > OK, then I guess having small frames is the way to go. But then we'd > need to come up with some alternative for text-mode terminals. In terminal, we won't be able to use the decorations anyway (right?). So if the Lisp interface for graphical-mode menus is the same as for terminal menus, we can create a menu-based popup implementation anyway. In that case, since it'll work everywhere, it would be a good first step, while small frames can be left for later.