From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Przemys=c5=82aw_Wojnowski?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:36:24 +0200 Message-ID: <561AAC28.1050003@cumego.com> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444588623 10717 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 18:37:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:37:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 20:36:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlLUL-00045F-Qq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:36:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49383 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlLUK-0004PY-VZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:36:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52119) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlLTy-0004PA-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlLTv-0007CZ-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp23.iq.pl ([86.111.242.228]:58510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlLTv-0007CJ-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:36:27 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 2324 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2015 18:36:24 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.106]) (esperanto@cumego.com@[159.205.196.239]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp22.iq.pl with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Oct 2015 18:36:24 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 86.111.242.228 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191256 Archived-At: W dniu 11.10.2015 o 19:25, John Wiegley pisze: >>>>>> Przemysław Wojnowski writes: > >> Recently I was going through Emacs C code and immediately one thing come to >> my mind: "Did anyone consider rewrite it a more maintainable language?" :-) > > Hi Przemysław, [...] > If C presented difficulties in terms of capability, efficiency, contribution, > debugging, etc., that would naturally drive us toward another language. But as > it stands, C is well understood, easy to resolve performance issues, there are > superb debugging and analysis tools available, and the runtime is exceedingly > mature. Thank you for comprehensive answer. I was just asking, not proposing as some people misread. > And, as some have said, C code represents only a fraction of what Emacs is to > the user. Switching from Emacs Lisp to another high-level language might be a > more interesting discussion, which you could take up with the people working > on such projects, like Guile Emacs. If someone can prove to me that we gain a > lot and lose a little from such a switch, it's definitely worth considering! It is an interesting topic, but I was not asking about that. But thanks, anyway!