From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is something wrong with `kbd'? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:16:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56152.130.55.118.19.1265746580.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <7b501d5c1002091110p5ee5f0c4sed8d15b730c4cbb8@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265746620 6464 80.91.229.12 (9 Feb 2010 20:17:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel To: "Deniz Dogan" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 21:16:57 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NewW1-0000gb-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:16:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35959 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NewVv-0006nB-41 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NewVo-0006mw-Qb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51380 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NewVo-0006mo-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NewVn-0000EA-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:44 -0500 Original-Received: from proofpoint1.lanl.gov ([204.121.3.25]:32834) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NewVn-0000Ds-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by proofpoint1.lanl.gov (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o19KGLIw014893; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:16:22 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1783015F9C43; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:16:21 -0700 (MST) X-NIE-2-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailrelay2.lanl.gov Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A4415F9BF2; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:16:21 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: by webmail1.lanl.gov (Postfix, from userid 48) id 02132E78001; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:16:20 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from 130.55.118.19 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:16:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7b501d5c1002091110p5ee5f0c4sed8d15b730c4cbb8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.7.lanl7 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2010-02-09_07:2010-02-06, 2010-02-09, 2010-02-09 signatures=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121036 Archived-At: > (kbd "C-TAB") returns [67108873], whatever that's supposed to be. TAB is (the number) C-i, which can't have Control re-applied in the usual sense, so it gets the 0x4000000 bit set (that's 0x4000009). > (kbd "") returns [C-tab]. `function-key-map' and friends don't have a translation for this symbol, perhaps because it's not something you can type on a terminal. So you can't bind it as a character, only as a symbol. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.