From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RCS, again: another removed functionality: undo last-checkin Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 23:06:14 +0300 Message-ID: <560D9236.6020008@yandex.ru> References: <87oagx6tzz.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <55FF4026.2050004@yandex.ru> <83si68nu4i.fsf@gnu.org> <87eghsfd3m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k2rknr2c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvwellmg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <56023A6C.3020302@yandex.ru> <5602BE3E.1050009@yandex.ru> <5602C4DE.8020105@yandex.ru> <560B4899.2070708@yandex.ru> <83wpv8be0x.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvw4b871.fsf@gnu.org> <560BC90B.1040902@yandex.ru> <83eghgatxa.fsf@gnu.org> <560C9BB7.2070408@yandex.ru> <83wpv79iel.fsf@gnu.org> <560D8CD8.7080307@yandex.ru> <83eghe8ini.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443729999 25658 80.91.229.3 (1 Oct 2015 20:06:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 01 22:06:33 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhk7W-0006g0-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 22:06:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhk7V-0001n9-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:06:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhk7S-0001mq-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:06:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhk7O-00086L-Vw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]:35612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zhk7O-00086H-Pn; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:06:18 -0400 Original-Received: by wicge5 with SMTP id ge5so5158483wic.0; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 13:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2QPxl5Kcmtwg8kVbyRWZfx2E3GK6izX+Z8CcqwuZFi4=; b=YjM569BYpzpEyUOQze6aYnUsdfk+d4sG9USoQMjSzvBSfGsHCztlHetiYjGhjkzN7W TjdO49AT8rRkj0VdjUmXguwxHQozpIFm/tps+onGznwqEPUFqIuplpTZ8+Xq4mL8fpiP gM+/jkUzQ8QQtRIBGoBtSE3N0mF0lRAZYOZQo/j64wOu/z8+eKOteVq5v7n7hHJR48fI nl2X2QajDc970xpwfg4Yp1EYwKkd0FDRVS6mdZXm5eqT6oFq2Ih7PUcXaqKXL+f5yFNr NcItxiH0Koz7QiEAJEmgfUdPHAXY2Xp/9A2F0ELWW/ghI0GPsKLXdTn4XQBkJctGvXBs rjUw== X-Received: by 10.180.105.33 with SMTP id gj1mr544456wib.90.1443729978168; Thu, 01 Oct 2015 13:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ew2sm4822792wic.20.2015.10.01.13.06.15 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Oct 2015 13:06:17 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <83eghe8ini.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190590 Archived-At: On 10/01/2015 10:59 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > v and c are neighbors, so I don't see why "C-x v c" would be hard. It's not hard, it's harder. Again, if `vc-commit' is going to be the preferred command, it should use the better binding. Arguing otherwise is discouraging, and it's a good example of why focus on backward compatibility saps mental energy. Would you prefer I don't work on this change at all? > I ask once again why not make vc-next-action support some simple > workflow with modern VCSes. That's very vague. >> To my (obviously) limited knowledge, RMS is the only user of a locking >> backend, and so far he hasn't answered the pertinent question about his >> workflow. > > If by "locking VCS" you mean RCS, then I use it from time to time. Could you answer that question, then?