From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add prettify symbols to python-mode Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:17:03 +0300 Message-ID: <5608E96F.2020406@yandex.ru> References: <1442777283-27514-1-git-send-email-mvoteiza@udel.edu> <20150921005306.GA29147@holos> <87h9mlwt6l.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443424661 7876 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2015 07:17:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:17:41 +0000 (UTC) To: Achim Gratz , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 28 09:17:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgSgp-0007TM-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:17:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgSgo-00025M-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:17:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgSga-00025F-VP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgSgW-0002Ao-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:38155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgSgW-0002AR-PN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: by wiclk2 with SMTP id lk2so87682075wic.1 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:17:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/ifaqSit77JwyceAsJnraHM85gCi9WphSLTNNjcobA=; b=OYiZneqSnkF0DLDVxEaMpMkgq4fks18kDwFScbSIJHhUVYkqhf5/1n2U4d+nwUtLb8 IKFz06Df8jnnQnbmqRYNw9ayZGopLr0mww7fRV/dc474IRCFf/aFLrLYAnYUvGdL6ASf vc976bqm1M19g4DM0KUHpThonXi6pviMp3fDZqcns8lZJNGddBKKdH6oJCPoLTI5JU/x 4wpQpDUDwGaW2oBbLr22epPmXeSu6wckXleQnvFjw2M87DcIsU5rLPuq4QDRpfSfSLdX 5a+lliC5uxphGDgpLY1iUjTSRxfHT/MWOtXejJMGkaBfhoxkuY/KqCxHKVpbC9cCkMnY BwyA== X-Received: by 10.194.52.67 with SMTP id r3mr24046331wjo.51.1443424635300; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o3sm16667356wif.22.2015.09.28.00.17.13 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:17:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <87h9mlwt6l.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190430 Archived-At: On 09/23/2015 09:22 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> It is. Python.el's maintainer has worked on the elpa scripts so that >> GNU ELPA packages can be built directly from the emacs.git source code. >> This way packages like python.el and seq.el which want to be bundled >> with Emacs as well as distributed via GNU ELPA can do so without having >> to duplicate them between elpa.git and emacs.git. > > This is good, but I can't help thinking that the other way around would > have been infinitely more useful. These issues are intertwined: as long as we can bundle packages from ELPA into Emacs distribution, we can move certain packages from the core into ELPA without losing them in the distribution. > In other words, emacs.git wouldn't > contain any other eLisp than what it needs to bootstrap and pulling in > everything else as a proper ELPA package while building. That would be overdoing it: Emacs is not that heavy, and as Eli points out, pulling out too many packages would lead to difficulties with keeping the whole thing together. At the very least, each "moved out" package would have to have an active maintainer (or several).