From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Explicit encoding cookie in Elisp files, was: Re: bug#21568: [PATCH] Add prettify-symbols-alist for js-mode Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:16:22 +0300 Message-ID: <5608BF16.2020605@yandex.ru> References: <1443268188.7436.0@smtp.gmail.com> <834mihgvb9.fsf@gnu.org> <1443283198.7442.0@smtp.gmail.com> <56074E0F.6060209@yandex.ru> <83r3lkfleu.fsf@gnu.org> <560788DB.6000104@yandex.ru> <83oagofhhi.fsf@gnu.org> <5607A721.2020002@yandex.ru> <83h9mgfe78.fsf@gnu.org> <5607ADCC.8080407@yandex.ru> <83d1x4fabf.fsf@gnu.org> <5607F919.9090600@yandex.ru> <831tdjg14c.fsf@gnu.org> <56083FD0.4020501@yandex.ru> <83y4frejbu.fsf@gnu.org> <56084F04.2040501@yandex.ru> <83vbavefup.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443413828 18547 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2015 04:17:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 04:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, =?UTF-8?Q?Simen_Heggest=c3=b8yl?= , emacs-devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 28 06:16:56 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgPrz-0006wH-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 06:16:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60331 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgPrz-0003wh-9R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:16:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49775) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgPrm-0003wX-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgPrj-0003nC-B2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:36293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZgPrj-0003n5-4z; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so86066962wic.1; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:16:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1DNQMD4O5PE44Z1ZAKh+tO5wMtRbk7gqRhU9noOndtQ=; b=Pt2xFT4oSkdsJ/DfxBHuYaDo4JFYLuMAbtQy0qDzeapYk17U6YXLRmBWOo+Bv3bOCU Jn5Csn+C0c4Vhkpqg0Nue4XLT6yeZwgwbZItmXLcAvjBFDKMQcfBGWKlVib+3wU3Uugn z7mDf9ypinMln4JcSKLfesb7Ob2KAVlUQi6iIg8yUXyvH9DdyNffFUublPZtH4F2cop5 TwbX4u7AHkxoZciHzvo8J4j3RdaBPUL29Q2TDKNPhAfGnJzgzrrI+GQEhmTApUt2JIKt 0Svtngbq6SjVl5qXcSB6fO3Ws+TEjRMtWK0d/sovcoAytOso1GYcHe5FWW6u1f5AuSVA lBxA== X-Received: by 10.194.242.167 with SMTP id wr7mr18864158wjc.27.1443413798379; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm16022547wiy.11.2015.09.27.21.16.34 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:16:37 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <83vbavefup.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190425 Archived-At: On 09/28/2015 12:01 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I see no ambiguity there. There are requirements, and there's "a good > idea" with an explanation that is left to the contributors to consider > and decide. I see nothing wrong with leaving the decision with them. How about this wording? but other files need them even if encoded in UTF-8. However, if an *.el file is intended for use with older Emacs versions (e.g. if it's also distributed via ELPA), having an explicit encoding specification is still a good idea. > Then I'm sorry that my wording made such interpretation possible. It > was certainly not intended. Thanks. It was exactly how I interpreted it. > Let's agree to disagree about that, okay? I don't mind having a difference in opinion, if you don't object to reverting db828f6. Having Elisp files default to UTF-8 is a good feature, and you're proposing to effectively ignore it. > The form and the intense of the objections are out of proportions, > for such an insignificant issue/disagreement. Sorry about the strong wording. Apparently, that's how I react to a perceived feature/workflow regression made on purpose (not sure how to phrase this better).