From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:08 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5607A028.90807@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj09fbzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5606C140.6090309@cs.ucla.edu> <878u7trwlb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83si61ezxd.fsf@gnu.org> <2FCA0DAD-831B-4B0A-B948-9F31DE52B6F0@gmail.com> <87twqgrgtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56077423.6030800@cs.ucla.edu> <83lhbsfgzs.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443340387 14366 80.91.229.3 (27 Sep 2015 07:53:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 07:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 09:52:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6l4-0002tM-4q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:52:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56463 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6l3-000185-NZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:52:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50717) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6ks-00017s-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6kr-0006Gu-5m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:35290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6kk-0006FK-Am; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC091611ED; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id sy_PGe-LxelA; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198AC1611F8; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id VmiWN96f_ONN; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F06E71611EA; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:52:08 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83lhbsfgzs.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190383 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I don't see any language to that effect in the C11 Final Draft I have > here. AFAICT, non-UTF-8 multibyte sequences are still supported by > C11. Of course; that part didn't change. I was talking about C11's new UTF-8 = string=20 literals, e.g., u8"Emacs=E3=81=AE=E4=B8=BB=E8=A6=81=E6=93=8D=E4=BD=9C(=E6= =97=A9=E8=A6=8B=E8=A1=A8)". There is no similar notation for=20 Shift-JIS, etc. Of course implementations can support legacy encodings, = and=20 some legacy C programs are written that way, but the only portable way to= go in=20 the future is Unicode.